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1. jdross+15[view] [source] 2023-12-08 19:20:04
>>anigbr+(OP)
Pro-Palestinian views outrank Pro-Israeli online by around 36 to 1 on TikTok and 8 to 1 on other online platforms. https://twitter.com/antgoldbloom/status/1721561226151612602

If anything the skew within the platforms is to prioritize pro-palestinian views https://twitter.com/committeeonccp/status/173279243496103143...

It also seems like these platforms create (rather than support) anti-Israeli views: https://twitter.com/antgoldbloom/status/1730255552738201854

US views skew pro-israel, and GenZ is closer to 50/50, so if there's something going on online, it's not in favor of Israel.

It's probably relevant that there are 1 billion Muslims to 16 million Jews, and that the largest relevant population of pro-Israeli internationals is India and Indian Hindus, and they are not on TikTok (blocked in India).

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2. master+G9[view] [source] 2023-12-08 19:46:25
>>jdross+15
Anti-semitism in and of itself is unequivocally wrong.

But conflating anti-Israeli views with anti-Semitic views does a disservice to Jews and Palestinians alike.

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3. beltsa+Dj[view] [source] 2023-12-08 20:30:39
>>master+G9
It depends on "Israeli what".

Anti Israeli government: It's not antisemitic.

Anti Israeli people: It's antisemitic.

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4. rushin+Fl[view] [source] 2023-12-08 20:40:24
>>beltsa+Dj
It’s more complicated than that.

Criticizing Israeli settlements in the West Bank is not antisemitic. But suggesting that Israel has no right to exist as a Jewish state is antisemitic as it implies ethnic cleansing.

Both are arguably criticisms of the Israeli government.

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5. dml213+Iq[view] [source] 2023-12-08 21:01:23
>>rushin+Fl
Why is saying Israeli should not be a Jewish state any different than saying the US should not be a Christian state?
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6. unholy+Uy[view] [source] 2023-12-08 21:38:34
>>dml213+Iq
Well Jews are a cultural and ethnic group as well; so saying Israel shouldn’t be a Jewish state is similar to saying Japan shouldn’t be a Japanese state. It was explicitly established to create (or some would say reclaimed) a Jewish homeland. It’s Jewishness is central to it’s raison d'être.
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7. harima+HM[view] [source] 2023-12-08 22:44:49
>>unholy+Uy
So wouldn't saying that Israel shouldn't be a Jewish state then be similar to saying that the United States shouldn't be a white state?
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8. galaha+GX[view] [source] 2023-12-08 23:38:34
>>harima+HM
The USA is a bad example because it does not have a basic ethnic group. A good parallel would be: "France should not be a French state" or "Ireland should not be an Irish state" or again "Japan should not be a Japanese state."
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9. harima+L21[view] [source] 2023-12-09 00:07:44
>>galaha+GX
It seems to me that Israel has two basic ethnic groups, Jewish and Palestinian. I think that many people are objecting to the perception that they are favoring one of those groups.*

I also think that many (most?) people would object to France, Ireland, or Japan favoring people who were ethnically or religiously French/Irish/Japanese.

* Edit: I think that people are also objecting to the fact that many Palestinians don't have a place where they can be prosperous and debatably had their land stolen.

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