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1. eclect+79[view] [source] 2023-11-22 07:00:30
>>staran+(OP)
The media and the VCs are treating Sam like some hero and savior of AI. I’m not getting it. What has he done in life and/or AI to deserve so much respect and admiration? Why don’t top researchers and scientists get equivalent (if not more) respect, admiration and support? It looks like one should strive to become product manager, not an engineer or a scientist.
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2. ben_w+Km[view] [source] 2023-11-22 08:40:34
>>eclect+79
He says nice things about his team (and even about his critics) when in public.

But my reading of this drama is that the board were seen as literally insane, not that Altman was seen as spectacularly heroic or an underdog.

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3. stingr+Rp[view] [source] 2023-11-22 09:07:00
>>ben_w+Km
My reading of all this is that the board is both incompetent and has a number of massive conflicts of interests.

What I don’t understand is why they were allowed to stay on the board with all these conflicts of interests all the while having no (financial) stake in OpenAI. One of the board members even openly admitting that she considered destroying OpenAI a successful outcome of her duty as board member.

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4. Sebb76+Vv[view] [source] 2023-11-22 10:00:25
>>stingr+Rp
> One of the board members even openly admitting that she considered destroying OpenAI a successful outcome of her duty as board member.

I don't see how this particular statement underscores your point. OpenAI is a non-profit with the declared goal of making AI safe and useful for everyone; if it fails to reach that or even actively subverts that goal, destroying the company does seem like the ethical action.

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5. smegge+Oi2[view] [source] 2023-11-22 19:42:16
>>Sebb76+Vv
Because distroying openai wouldn't make ai safe it would just remove anyone working on alignment from having an influence on it. Microsoft and others are interested in making it benevolent but go along with it because openai is the market leader.
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