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1. jafitc+F91[view] [source] 2023-11-22 14:31:43
>>staran+(OP)
OpenAI's Future and Viability

- OpenAI has damaged their brand and lost trust, but may still become a hugely successful company if they build great products

- OpenAI looks stronger now with a more professional board, but has fundamentally transformed into a for-profit focused on commercializing LLMs

- OpenAI still retains impressive talent and technology assets and could pivot into a leading AI provider if managed well

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Sam Altman's Leadership

- Sam emerged as an irreplaceable CEO with overwhelming employee loyalty, but may have to accept more oversight

- Sam has exceptional leadership abilities but can be manipulative; he will likely retain control but have to keep stakeholders aligned

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Board Issues

- The board acted incompetently and destructively without clear reasons or communication

- The new board seems more reasonable but may struggle to govern given Sam's power

- There are still opposing factions on ideology and commercialization that will continue battling

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Employee Motivations

- Employees followed the money trail and Sam to preserve their equity and careers

- Peer pressure and groupthink likely also swayed employees more than principles

- Mission-driven employees may still leave for opportunities at places like Anthropic

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Safety vs Commercialization

- The safety faction lost this battle but still has influential leaders wanting to constrain the technology

- Rapid commercialization beat out calls for restraint but may hit snags with model issues

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Microsoft Partnership

- Microsoft strengthened its power despite not appearing involved in the drama

- OpenAI is now clearly beholden to Microsoft's interests rather than an independent entity

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2. amalco+qi1[view] [source] 2023-11-22 15:06:55
>>jafitc+F91
>- Microsoft strengthened its power despite not appearing involved in the drama

Depending on what you mean by "the drama", Microsoft was very clearly involved. They don't appear to have been in the loop prior to Altman's firing, but they literally offered jobs to everyone who left in solidarity with same. Do we really think things like that were not intended to change people's minds?

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3. Firmwa+qj1[view] [source] 2023-11-22 15:10:56
>>amalco+qi1
>but they literally offered jobs to everyone who left in solidarity with same

Offering people jobs is neither illegal nor immoral, no? And wasn't HN also firmly on the side of abolishing non-competes and non-soliciting from employment contracts to facilitate freedom of employment movement and increase industry wages in the process?

Well then, there's your freedom of employment in action. Why be unhappy about it? I don't get it.

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4. spanka+0k1[view] [source] 2023-11-22 15:13:51
>>Firmwa+qj1
> Offering people jobs is neither illegal nor immoral

The comment you responded to made neither of those claims, just that they were "involved".

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