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>>staran+(OP)
I guess the main question is who else will be on the board and to what degree will this new board be committed to the Open AI charter vs being Sam/MSFT allies. I think having Sam return as CEO is a good outcome for OpenAI but hopefully he and Greg stay off the board.

It's important that the board be relatively independent and able to fire the CEO if he attempts to deviate from the mission.

I was a bit alarmed by the allegations in this article

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/21/technology/openai-altman-...

Saying that Sam tried to have Helen Toner removed which precipitated this fight. The CEO should not be allowed to try and orchestrate their own board as that would remove all checks against their decisions.

>>altpad+R1
> It's important that the board be relatively independent and able to fire the CEO if he attempts to deviate from the mission.

They did fire him, and it didn't work. Sam effectively became "too big to fire."

I'm sure it will be framed as a compromise, but how can this be anything but a collapse of the board's power over the commercial OpenAI arm? The threat of firing was the enforcement mechanism, and its been spent.

>>brucet+16
they lost trust in him because apparently part of the funding he secured was directly tied to his position at openAI. kind of a big red flag. The microsoft 10 billion investment allegedly had a clause that Sam Altman had to stay or it would be renegotiated

allegedly again, the board wanted Sam to stop doing this, and now he was trying to do the same thing with some saudi investors, or actually already did it behind their back, i dont know

>>dacryn+Af
Do you have a source for either of these things? The only thing I heard about Saudi investors was related to the (presumably separate) chip startup.