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[return to "We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO"]
1. tomohe+V[view] [source] 2023-11-22 06:08:13
>>staran+(OP)
So, Ilya is out of the board, but Adam is still on it. I know this will raise some eyebrows but whatever.

Still though, this isn't something that will just go away with Sam back. OAI will undergo serious changes now that Sam has shown himself to be irreplaceable. Future will tell but in the long terms, I doubt we will see OAI as one of the megacorps like Facebook or Uber. They lost the trust.

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2. ilikeh+72[view] [source] 2023-11-22 06:15:42
>>tomohe+V
OAI looks stronger than ever. The untrustworthy bits that caused all this instability over the last 5 days have been ditched into the sea. Care to expand on your claim?
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3. 6gvONx+O3[view] [source] 2023-11-22 06:26:46
>>ilikeh+72
> The untrustworthy bits that caused all this instability over the last 5 days have been ditched into the sea

This whole thing started with Altman pushing a safety oriented non-profit into a tense contradiction (edit: I mean the 2019-2022 gpt3/chatgpt for-profit stuff that led to all the Anthropic people leaving). The most recent timeline was

- Altman tries to push out another board member

- That board member escalates by pushing Altman out (and Brockman off the board)

- Altman's side escalates by saying they'll nuke the company

Altman's side won, but how can we say that his side didn't cause any of this instability?

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4. WendyT+T5[view] [source] 2023-11-22 06:39:55
>>6gvONx+O3
By recognizing that it didn't "start" with Altman trying to push out another board member, it started when that board member published a paper trashing the company she's on the board of, without speaking to the CEO of that company first, or trying in any way to affect change first.
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5. 6gvONx+N7[view] [source] 2023-11-22 06:52:16
>>WendyT+T5
I edited my comment to clarify what I meant. The start was him pushing to move fast and break things in the classic YC kind of way. And it's BS to say that she didn't speak to the CEO or try to affect change first. The safety camp inside openai has been unsuccessfully trying to push him to slow down for years.

See this article for all that context (>>38341399 ) because it sure didn't start with the paper you referred to either.

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