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1. Emma_G+QE[view] [source] 2023-11-20 16:53:23
>>skille+(OP)
I don't really understanding why the workforce is swinging unambiguously behind Altman. The core of the narrative thus far is that the board fired Altman on the grounds that he was prioritising commercialisation over the not-for-profit mission of OpenAI written into the organisation's charter.[1] Given that Sam has since joined Microsoft, that seems plausible, on its face.

The board may have been incompetent and shortsighted. Perhaps they should even try and bring Altman back, and reform themselves out of existence. But why would the vast majority of the workforce back an open letter failing to signal where they stand on the crucial issue - on the purpose of OpenAI and their collective work? Given the stakes which the AI community likes to claim are at issue in the development of AGI, that strikes me as strange and concerning.

[1] https://openai.com/charter

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2. FartyM+LI[view] [source] 2023-11-20 17:06:54
>>Emma_G+QE
> I don't really understanding why the workforce is swinging unambiguously behind Altman.

Maybe it has to do with them wanting to get rich by selling their shares - my understanding is there was an ongoing process to get that happening [1].

If Altman is out of the picture, it looks like Microsoft will assimilate a lot of OpenAI into a separate organisation and OpenAI's shares might become worthless.

[1] https://www.financemagnates.com/fintech/openai-in-talks-to-s...

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3. leetha+8O[view] [source] 2023-11-20 17:23:27
>>FartyM+LI
Yep.

What people don't realize is that Microsoft doesn't own the data or models that OpenAI has today. Yeah, they can poach all the talent, but it still takes an enormous amount of effort to create the dataset and train the models the way OpenAI has done it.

Recreating what OpenAI has done over at Microsoft will be nothing short of a herculean effort and I can't see it materializing the way people think it will.

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4. Finbar+hP[view] [source] 2023-11-20 17:26:58
>>leetha+8O
Except MSFT does have access to the IP, and MSFT has access to an enormous trove of their own data across their office suite, Bing, etc. It could be a running start rather than a cold start. A fork of OpenAI inside an unapologetic for profit entity, without the shackles of the weird board structure.
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