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1. vgathe+Cg[view] [source] 2023-11-18 10:41:10
>>pg_123+(OP)
Quant firms at least are one of the few places where noncompetes can make sense. It's an extremely IP sensitive industry with stupendously high pay where the employee is going to someone probably competing very directly with you, for the same/similar opportunities. Actual code + NDAs banning literal reimplementations of stuff aren't that valuable, the knowledge and ideas will stay in the head of the employees.

The two main issues I have with them are that firms tend to give them to just about everybody (instead of just to folks working very directly with real IP), and they only pay base salary, not something closer to actual total compensation (often multiples of the base pay).

Having said that, the quant firm is relatively unimportant and not a good reason to prevent a total noncompete law. It's probably better to just ban them then try and make allowances that aren't full of loopholes.

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2. caskst+w61[view] [source] 2023-11-18 16:17:09
>>vgathe+Cg
> Quant firms at least are one of the few places where noncompetes can make sense. It's an extremely IP sensitive industry with stupendously high pay where the employee is going to someone probably competing very directly with you, for the same/similar opportunities.

Cry me a river. If knowledge of some particular employees worth so much to the quant firms, then they should pay them not to leave accordingly.

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3. bumby+iY1[view] [source] 2023-11-18 21:08:08
>>caskst+w61
Employees don't hold ownership of that intellectual property, though. You're speaking almost in terms of a moral right; IP rights are legal rights of convention. An employee isn't entitled to them in the same way.
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4. shermo+5l7[view] [source] 2023-11-20 08:59:06
>>bumby+iY1
You're suggesting that if an employee wants to change jobs, they should work in a field for which they have less expertise and thus get paid less. How is that reasonable?
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5. bumby+De8[view] [source] 2023-11-20 14:17:29
>>shermo+5l7
That is not what I’m implying. You can work in a similar industry without taking trade secrets, except in the case of inevitable disclosure. For example, if you quit writing for Coke you can still go work for Pepsi without disclosing the Coke recipe.
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