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1. 9dev+w9[view] [source] 2023-11-20 08:37:33
>>JimDab+(OP)
I don’t quite buy your Cyberpunk utopia where the Megacorp finally rids us of those pesky ethics qualms (or ”shackles“, as you phrased it.) Microsoft can now proceed without the guidance of a council that actually has humanities interests in mind, not only those of Microsoft shareholders. I don’t know whether all that caution will turn out to have been necessary, but I guess we’re just gleefully heading into whatever lies ahead without any concern whatsoever, and learn it the hard way.

It’s a bit tragic that Ilya and company achieved the exact opposite of what they intended apparently, by driving those they attempted to slow down into the arms of people with more money and less morals. Well.

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2. Terrif+Fn[view] [source] 2023-11-20 09:55:52
>>9dev+w9
> It’s a bit tragic that Ilya and company achieved the exact opposite of what they intended apparently, by driving those they attempted to slow down into the arms of people with more money and less morals. Well.

If they didn’t fire him, Altman will just continue to run hog wild over their charter. In that sense they lose either way.

At least this way, OpenAI can continue to operate independently instead of being Microsoft’s zombie vassal company with their mole Altman pulling the strings.

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3. abm53+9r[view] [source] 2023-11-20 10:18:49
>>Terrif+Fn
There is a third option where he stayed, they managed to find a compromise, and in so doing kept their influence in the space to a large extent.
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4. layer8+4s[view] [source] 2023-11-20 10:24:58
>>abm53+9r
I'm pretty sure they tried that before firing him.
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5. s3p+Lt[view] [source] 2023-11-20 10:39:19
>>layer8+4s
Seeing as the vote took place in a haphazard way on the 11th hour during a weekend, I’m not sure they did.
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6. ethanb+Zx[view] [source] 2023-11-20 11:09:27
>>s3p+Lt
This has been a source of tension at least since the release of ChatGPT, so… yeah it’s not like the problem came out of nowhere. The governance structure itself is indicative of quite elaborate attempts to reconcile it.
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7. mbrees+dK[view] [source] 2023-11-20 12:33:09
>>ethanb+Zx
I don’t know about that. Yes, there was tension built into the structure, something happened to trigger this. You don’t fire your CEO without a backup plan if this was an on going conflict. And if your backup plan is to keep the current president (who was the chair of the board until you removed him), that’s not a backup plan.

Everything points to this being a haphazard change that’s clumsy at best.

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8. ethanb+ZK[view] [source] 2023-11-20 12:38:04
>>mbrees+dK
The question was “did they try to find compromise” not “was the firing haphazard.” The answer is definitely yes to the former.
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