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1. 9dev+w9[view] [source] 2023-11-20 08:37:33
>>JimDab+(OP)
I don’t quite buy your Cyberpunk utopia where the Megacorp finally rids us of those pesky ethics qualms (or ”shackles“, as you phrased it.) Microsoft can now proceed without the guidance of a council that actually has humanities interests in mind, not only those of Microsoft shareholders. I don’t know whether all that caution will turn out to have been necessary, but I guess we’re just gleefully heading into whatever lies ahead without any concern whatsoever, and learn it the hard way.

It’s a bit tragic that Ilya and company achieved the exact opposite of what they intended apparently, by driving those they attempted to slow down into the arms of people with more money and less morals. Well.

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2. imgabe+fb[view] [source] 2023-11-20 08:44:28
>>9dev+w9
You might notice that Microsoft shareholders are also part of humanity and destroying humanity would be highly detrimental to Microsoft's profits, so maybe their interests are not as misaligned as you think.

I am always bemused by how people assume any corporate interest is automatically a cartoon supervillain who wants to destroy the entire world just because.

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3. altacc+hc[view] [source] 2023-11-20 08:49:27
>>imgabe+fb
The mega rich have been building bunkers and preparing for the downfall of humanity for a long time now. Look around and you'll notice that greed wins out over everything else. We're surrounded by companies doing nothing or only small token gestures to protect humanity or the world we live in and instead focusing on getting rich, because getting rich is exactly why people become shareholders. Don't rely on those guys to save the world, it'll be the boring committees that are more likely to do that.
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4. jacque+og[view] [source] 2023-11-20 09:13:17
>>altacc+hc
Incidentally, Altman is a 'prepper'.
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5. imgabe+ci[view] [source] 2023-11-20 09:23:53
>>jacque+og
So is Thiel, famously, but I don’t think that proves they want the world to be destroyed. It’s an interesting kind of problem to think about and you have to spend money on something. It’s the same kind of instinct that makes kids want to build forts.

But surely, being a rich and powerful billionaire in a functioning civilization is more desirable than having the nicest bunker in the wasteland. Even if we assume their motives are 100% selfish destroying the world is not the best outcome for them.

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6. jacque+5n[view] [source] 2023-11-20 09:51:42
>>imgabe+ci
They do happen to have some effect on the outcome for the rest of us. It's a bit like the captain of a boat that has already taken the first seat in the lifeboat while directing the ship towards the iceberg and saying 'don't worry, we can't possibly sink'.
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7. thworp+ot[view] [source] 2023-11-20 10:37:01
>>jacque+5n
If you are suggesting that billionaires like Thiel don't have any skin in the game (of human civilization continuing in a somewhat stable way) you're nuts.

If we hit the iceberg they will lose everything. Even if they're able to fly to their NZ hideout, it will already be robbed and occupied. The people that built and stocked their bunker will have formed a gang and confiscated all of his supplies. This is what happens in anarchy.

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8. cyanyd+eF[view] [source] 2023-11-20 11:55:36
>>thworp+ot
you're assuming they're not determinists.

people like Steve jobs are the best example of flawed logic. in the face of a completely different set of heuristic and logical information, he assumed he was just as capable, and chose fruit smoothies over more efficacious and proven medication.

they absolutely, like jobs, are playing a game they think they fully understand and absolutely are likely to chose medicine akin to jobs

just watch Elon and everything he's choosing to do.

these people are all normal but society has given the a deadly amount of leverage without any specific training.

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