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1. 9dev+w9[view] [source] 2023-11-20 08:37:33
>>JimDab+(OP)
I don’t quite buy your Cyberpunk utopia where the Megacorp finally rids us of those pesky ethics qualms (or ”shackles“, as you phrased it.) Microsoft can now proceed without the guidance of a council that actually has humanities interests in mind, not only those of Microsoft shareholders. I don’t know whether all that caution will turn out to have been necessary, but I guess we’re just gleefully heading into whatever lies ahead without any concern whatsoever, and learn it the hard way.

It’s a bit tragic that Ilya and company achieved the exact opposite of what they intended apparently, by driving those they attempted to slow down into the arms of people with more money and less morals. Well.

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2. imgabe+fb[view] [source] 2023-11-20 08:44:28
>>9dev+w9
You might notice that Microsoft shareholders are also part of humanity and destroying humanity would be highly detrimental to Microsoft's profits, so maybe their interests are not as misaligned as you think.

I am always bemused by how people assume any corporate interest is automatically a cartoon supervillain who wants to destroy the entire world just because.

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3. altacc+hc[view] [source] 2023-11-20 08:49:27
>>imgabe+fb
The mega rich have been building bunkers and preparing for the downfall of humanity for a long time now. Look around and you'll notice that greed wins out over everything else. We're surrounded by companies doing nothing or only small token gestures to protect humanity or the world we live in and instead focusing on getting rich, because getting rich is exactly why people become shareholders. Don't rely on those guys to save the world, it'll be the boring committees that are more likely to do that.
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4. jacque+og[view] [source] 2023-11-20 09:13:17
>>altacc+hc
Incidentally, Altman is a 'prepper'.
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5. noprom+6k[view] [source] 2023-11-20 09:34:39
>>jacque+og
It's just insurance.

The rest of us just can't afford most of the insurance that we probably should have.

Insurance is for scenarios that are very unlikely to happen. Means nothing. If I was worth 300 mil I'd have insurance in case I accidently let an extra heavy toilet seat smash the boys downstairs.

Throw the money at radical weener rejuvination startups. Never know... Not like you have much to lose after that unlikely event.

I'd get insurance for all kinds of things.

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6. jacque+Vm[view] [source] 2023-11-20 09:50:43
>>noprom+6k
Insurance amortizes the risks that large numbers of people are exposed to by pooling a little bit of their resources. This is something else though I'm not quite able to put my finger on why I think it is duplicitous.
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7. noprom+Oo[view] [source] 2023-11-20 10:03:20
>>jacque+Vm
Fair point in semantic terms.

Maybe it's risk mitigation without cost sharing to achieve the same economies of scale that insurance creates.

Its a rich man's way of removing risks that we are all exposed to via spending money on things that most couldn't seriously consider due to the likelihood of said risks.

I don't think it's duplicitous. I do resent that I can't afford it. I can't hate on them though. I hate the game, not the players. Some of these guy would prob let folks stay in their bunker. They just can't build a big enough bunker. Also most folks are gross to live with. I'd insist on some basic rules.

I think we innately are suspicious when advantaged folks are planing how they would handle the deaths of the majority of the rest of us. Sorta just... Makes one feel... Less.

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8. jacque+6q[view] [source] 2023-11-20 10:11:21
>>noprom+Oo
It's duplicitous because it is the likes of Thiel that are messing with the stability of our society in the first place.
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9. noprom+Tr[view] [source] 2023-11-20 10:23:47
>>jacque+6q
Hmm... True story.

Finger placed on duplicity.

Arguably only some of his time is spent on that kind of instability promoting activity. Most law enforcement agencies agree... Palantir good.

Most reasonable people agree... Funding your own senators and donating tons to Trump and friends... Bad.

Bad Thiel! Stick to wierd seasteading in your spare time if you want to get wierd. No 0 regulation AI floating compute unit seasteading. Only stable seasteading.

All kidding aside, you make a good point. Some of these guys should be a bit more responsible. They don't care what we think though. We're wierd non ceo hamsters who failed to make enough for the New Zealand bunker.

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