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1. jasonh+4t[view] [source] 2023-11-19 22:52:33
>>himara+(OP)
This is why, when you claim to be running a non-profit to "benefit humankind," you shouldn't put all your resources into a for-profit subsidiary. Eventually, the for-profit arm, and its investors, will find its nonprofit parent a hindrance, and an insular board of directors won't stand a chance against corporate titans.
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2. silenc+DN[view] [source] 2023-11-20 00:53:20
>>jasonh+4t
> This is why, when you claim to be running a non-profit to "benefit humankind," you shouldn't put all your resources into a for-profit subsidiary.

To be frank, they need to really spell out what "benefitting mankind" is. How is it measured? Or is it measured? Or is it just "the board says this isn't doing that so it's not doing that"?

It's honestly a silly slogan.

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3. zug_zu+FO[view] [source] 2023-11-20 01:01:04
>>silenc+DN
They should define it, sure. Here's what I'd expect this means:

- Not limiting access to a universally profitable technology by making it only accessible to highest bidder (e.g. hire our virtual assistants for 30k a year).

- Making models with a mind to all threats (existential, job replacement, scam uses)

- Potentially open-sourcing models that are deemed safe

So far I genuinely believe they are doing the first two and leaving billions on the table they could get by jacking their price 10x or more.

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4. mlyle+mR[view] [source] 2023-11-20 01:19:42
>>zug_zu+FO
If they jack the prices, they leave too wide a door for other entrants.

Right now, OpenAI mostly has a big cost advantage; fully exploiting that requires lower pricing and high volume.

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5. robren+rT[view] [source] 2023-11-20 01:34:47
>>mlyle+mR
From my time working on search related problems at Google, this might be a bit of a winner take most market. If you have the users, your system can more effectively learn how to do a better job for the users. The interaction data generated is excludable gold, merely knowing how 100s of millions use chat bots is incredibly powerful, and if the company keeps being the clear and well known best, it's easy to stay the best, because the learning system has more high quality things to learn from.

While google did do a good job milking knowledge and improving from its queries and interaction data, openai surely knows how to get information from high quality textual data even better.

Openai made an interface where you can just speak your natural language, it didn't make you learn it's own pool of keyword jargon bastardized quasi command language. It's way more natural.

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