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1. aidama+67[view] [source] 2023-11-18 08:11:23
>>convex+(OP)
GPT5 pre-training just ended I believe. Brock, Pachocki, Szymon Sidor, would have likely all been involved.

These are huge losses. Pachocki led pre-training for GPT-4, and probably GPT-5. Brockman is the major engineer responsible for the efficiency improvements that enabled ChatGPT and GPT-4 to be even remotely cost-effective. That is a piece that is often overlooked, but OpenAI's advantage over the competition in compute efficiency is probably even larger than the model itself.

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2. convex+l8[view] [source] 2023-11-18 08:22:14
>>aidama+67
"Greg Brockman works 60 to 100 hours per week, and spends around 80% of the time coding. Former colleagues have described him as the hardest-working person at OpenAI."

https://time.com/collection/time100-ai/6309033/greg-brockman...

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3. sasaf5+Cb[view] [source] 2023-11-18 08:52:33
>>convex+l8
I am either skeptical or envious of such claims. Someone coding so much would quickly be launched into meetings to communicate one's results and to coordinate with others.

It would be my life's dream to spend 80 hours per week coding without having to communicate with others... but no one is an island...

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4. nvarsj+xe[view] [source] 2023-11-18 09:16:37
>>sasaf5+Cb
It's possible, but harder than almost any other role. There are people at Google/Meta like this. Usually E7/E8 levels, "coding machines". It's much easier to go into a pseudo PM/TL/Director role though to hit those levels and income, so it's uncommon.

You really have to have a passion for coding to put in the hours and be very good at it. Incredibly rare, believe it or not. Lots of people think they are good coders but this is another level. Proof is in your commit/code review count/async comms being 10x-100x of everyone else in your org, and it's clear you're single-handedly enabling delivery of major projects earlier than anyone else could. Think of the pressure of doing this continuously.

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5. NhanH+7h[view] [source] 2023-11-18 09:38:43
>>nvarsj+xe
It's not about being rockstar or 10x. He was the chairman of the board (and President of the LLC). Practically speaking, he can work however he wishes within the company. Seeing that he went from CTO role to President role, it's fairly obvious that he got the opportunity to structure the role and the work to best fit him (and probably the company, too).
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6. ramraj+6l[view] [source] 2023-11-18 10:14:42
>>NhanH+7h
There’s always a hoarde of people second guessing the 10x engineer. Of course it looks impossible to regular folks. I have seen a few people like this. They’re real. Sometimes it’s even worth the dysfunction they cause to see this in action.
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7. blurbl+zx[view] [source] 2023-11-18 11:53:21
>>ramraj+6l
I've seen the bugs of multiple 10x engineers multiply together for 10^n x bugs
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8. datame+tZ[view] [source] 2023-11-18 14:45:47
>>blurbl+zx
In my experience I have encountered two 10x engineers:

1) Moves fast, flexes their authority to sweep small stuff under the rug until it is out of scope and can be "fixed real quick" later. Often leverages many subject matter experts through effective and persistent communication and learns quick enough to get PRs through the door (that sometimes need "quick" fixes later). Enjoys selecting items that benefit their career the most, at the expense of others on their team. Mentors only enough to onboard and increase his team's yield, not to aid their careers. Fueled by the recognition and validation of peers through PR/project completion.

2) Gets shit done, is the SMI themself. Solo code cannon, but PRs go in clean, beautiful to look at. May not get along well with some but not necessarily abrasive to work with especially being part of their direct team. Can be a great altruistic mentor if they spare 5% of their time. Enjoys what they do, and the technologies they work with. Fueled by personal satisfaction in their achievements, and in uplifting their team.

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9. chucke+514[view] [source] 2023-11-19 11:59:14
>>datame+tZ
Sorry, but what is SMI?
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10. datame+156[view] [source] 2023-11-19 23:27:20
>>chucke+514
I just engaged in the kind of acronym abuse I don't enjoy receiving! It stands for Subject Matter Expert.
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