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1. twoodf+33[view] [source] 2023-11-18 23:06:27
>>medler+(OP)
This suggests a plausible explanation that Altman was attempting to engineer the board’s expansion or replacement: After the events of the last 48 hours, could you blame him?

In this scenario, it was a pure power struggle. The board believed they’d win by showing Altman the door, but it didn’t take long to demonstrate that their actual power to do so was limited to the de jure end of the spectrum.

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2. spacem+g5[view] [source] 2023-11-18 23:16:19
>>twoodf+33
Any talented engineer or scientist who actually wants to ship product AND make money would head over to Sam’s startup. Any investor who cares about making money would fund Sam’s startup as well.

The way the board pulled this off really gave them no good outcome. They stand to lose talent AND investors AND customers. Half the people I know who use GPT in their work are wondering if it will be even worth paying for if the model’s improvements stagnates with the departure of these key people.

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3. whokno+ru[view] [source] 2023-11-19 01:46:45
>>spacem+g5
>would head over to Sam’s startup

Why? I see a lot of hero-worship for Sam, but very little concrete facts about what he's done to make this a success.

And given his history, I'm inclined to believe he just got lucky.

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4. nvm0n2+kw1[view] [source] 2023-11-19 10:50:15
>>whokno+ru
OpenAI is very conspicuously the only lab that (a) managed to keep the safety obsessives in their box, (b) generate huge financial upside for its employees and (c) isn't run by a researcher.

If Altman's contribution had simply been signing deals for data and compute then keeping staff fantasies under control, that already makes him unique in that space and hyper valuable. But he also seems to have good product sense. If you remember, the researchers originally didn't want to do chatgpt because they thought nobody would care.

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