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>>davidb+(OP)
From NYT article [1] and Greg's tweet [2]

"In a post to X Friday evening, Mr. Brockman said that he and Mr. Altman had no warning of the board’s decision. “Sam and I are shocked and saddened by what the board did today,” he wrote. “We too are still trying to figure out exactly what happened.”

Mr. Altman was asked to join a video meeting with the board at noon on Friday and was immediately fired, according to Mr. Brockman. Mr. Brockman said that even though he was the chairman of the board, he was not part of this board meeting.

He said that the board informed him of Mr. Altman’s ouster minutes later. Around the same time, the board published a blog post."

[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/17/technology/openai-sam-alt...

[2] https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1725736242137182594

>>gordon+LA1
So they didn't even give Altman a chance to defend himself for supposedly lying (inconsistent candour as they put it.) Wow.

>>cedws+xC1
Another source [1] claims: "A knowledgeable source said the board struggle reflected a cultural clash at the organization, with Altman and Brockman focused on commercialization and Sutskever and his allies focused on the original non-profit mission of OpenAI."

[1] - https://sfstandard.com/2023/11/17/openai-sam-altman-firing-b...

>>somena+HF1
Sutskever and his allies focused on the original non-profit mission of OpenAI."

Seems reasonable, I mean that's why Sutskever joined in the first place ?

>>ChatGT+iv2
Not just Sustkever, but other top researchers joined the then nascent OpenAI team for the same reason. Most of them on-record indicating they turned down much bigger paychecks.

The problem I see is, astronomical costs of training and inference warrants a for-profit structure like the one Sam put up. It was a nice compromise, I thought; but of course, Sustkever thinks otherwise.

>>ignora+vp3
Maybe Sutskever is finished with his LLM experiments and now has other interests and ideas to pursue meanwhile Sam was keen to make money and stay on the same trajectory. Microsoft also felt the same way.

Could see this