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1. meetpa+Kv[view] [source] 2023-11-19 01:55:59
>>medler+(OP)
Update on the OpenAI drama: Altman and the board had till 5pm to reach a truce where the board would resign and he and Brockman would return. The deadline has passed and mass resignations expected if a deal isn’t reached ASAP

https://twitter.com/alexeheath/status/1726055095341875545

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2. adam_a+zH[view] [source] 2023-11-19 03:05:25
>>meetpa+Kv
Pretty incredible incompetence all around if true.

From the board for not anticipating a backlash and caving immediately... from Microsoft for investing into an endeavor that is purportedly chartered as non-profit and governed by nobodies who can sink it on a whim. And having 0 hard influence on the direction despite a large ownership stake

Why bother with a non-profit model that is surreptitiously for profit? The whole structure of OpenAI is largely a facade at this point.

Just form a new for profit company and be done with it. Altman's direction for profit is fine, but shouldn't have been pursued under the loose premise of a non profit.

While OpenAI leads currently, there are so many competitors that are within striking distance without the drama. Why keep the baggage?

It's pretty clear that the best engineering will decide the winners, not the popularity of the CEO. OpenAI has first mover advantage, and perhaps better talent, but not by an order of magnitude. There is no special sauce here.

Altman may be charismatic and well connected, but the hero worship put forward on here is really sad and misplaced.

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3. x86x87+UK[view] [source] 2023-11-19 03:31:15
>>adam_a+zH
my question is: why not both? why not pursue the profit and use that to fuel the research into AGI. seems like a best of both worlds.
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4. cthalu+QL[view] [source] 2023-11-19 03:38:40
>>x86x87+UK
That's the intent of the arrangement, but there's also limits - when that pursuit of profit begins to interfere with the charter of the non-profit, you end up in this situation.

https://openai.com/charter

> OpenAI’s mission is to ensure that artificial general intelligence (AGI)—by which we mean highly autonomous systems that outperform humans at most economically valuable work—benefits all of humanity.

My interpretation of events is the board believes that Altman's actions have worked against the interest of building an AGI that benefits all of humanity - concentrating access to the AI to businesses could be the issue, or the focus on commercialization of the existing LLMs and chatbot stuff causing conflict with assigning resources to AGI r&d, etc.

Of course no one knows for sure except the people directly involved here.

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5. dabock+yW[view] [source] 2023-11-19 04:57:07
>>cthalu+QL
> Of course no one knows for sure except the people directly involved here.

The IRS will know soon enough if they were indeed non-profit.

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