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>>medler+(OP)
I think Microsoft is behind all of this. The “kumbaya let’s work together for humanity” Microsoft has been swapped out for the old Microsoft. Too much is at stake for them.

>>chasd0+wD
I read Nadella has threatened to turn off OpenAIs computers and would litigate the hell out of them to prevent the computers from being turned back on. Which is why the board is suddenly open to negotiation with Altman.

Yeah, that's the Microsoft of old. Don't trust 'em.

Bad news for OpenAI, and any hope that this stuff won't be used for evil.

>>lordfr+QF
>I read Nadella has threatened to turn off OpenAIs computers and would litigate the hell out of them to prevent the computers from being turned back on.

What a way to destroy confidence in Azure, or cloud platforms in general.

>>tapoxi+IH
Why. Microsoft pays openAIs azure bills. Do you not know how that’s different than any other situation?

>>tsunam+OJ
Presumably, under a contractual relationship tied to their licensing agreement with OpenAI. So, this kind of threat undermines confidence in Microsoft's contractual agreements.

>>dragon+pL
Haha I see you’ve never had a contract with Microsoft. They are hyper aggressive and full of explosive gotchas.

>>tsunam+7M
To be fair, you wouldn't know they're hyper aggressive until they actually move to enforce part of the contract. Most of their "partners" probably never need to meet that side of their legal team.

If I measured the "aggressiveness" of every contract based on the potential litigation of all its clauses, I'd never sign anything.

>>chatma+4N
They are pretty on the nose with explosive triggers. For example all windows license are free with office 10 year deal however if the deal is withdrawn all windows licenses are owned immediately upon cancellation. This is just the basic explosive stuff it gets worse from there.

>>tsunam+wN
Sure, but any clause of the contract that requires followup action to collect payment is hardly ever going to be enforced. It's only when you're partnering with them at the scale of OpenAI that you need to worry about details like that.

And in regards to OpenAI, note that (according to TFA), Microsoft has barely distributed any of their committed "$10 billion" of investment. So they have real leverage when threatening to deploy their team of lawyers to quibble over the partnership contract. And I don't think that "undermines confidence" in Microsoft's contractual agreements, given that there are only two or three other companies that have ever partnered with Microsoft at this scale (Apple and Google come to mind).

>>chatma+WN
Im agreeing with you.

>>tsunam+ZO
Care to sign a partnership agreement? I'll need you to personally indemnify against any defection to GP's side, of course - any subsequent comment in violation of these terms could be subject to arbitration and voiding of the partnership agreement.