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1. shmatt+by[view] [source] 2023-11-19 02:10:04
>>medler+(OP)
This makes no sense. People are calling what the board did a coup, but Altman is trying (failing?) to stage a coup.

The board was Altmans boss - this is pretty much their only job. Altman knew this and most likely ignored any questions or concerns of theirs thinking he is the unfireable superstar

Imagine if your boss fired you - and your response was - I’ll come back if you quit! Yeah, no. People might confuse status with those of actual ceo shareholders like zuck, bezos, or musk. But Altman is just another employee

The shareholders can fire the board, but that’s not what he’s asking for. And so far we haven’t heard anything about them getting fired. So mostly this just seems like an egomaniac employee who thinks he is the company (while appropriating the work of some really really smart data scientists)

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2. sigmar+9z[view] [source] 2023-11-19 02:15:48
>>shmatt+by
>People are calling what the board did a coup, but Altman is trying (failing?) to stage a coup.

The board removed the board's chairman and fired the CEO. That's why it was called a coup.

>The shareholders can fire the board, but that’s not what he’s asking for. And so far we haven’t heard anything about them getting fired

nonprofits don't have shareholders (or shares).

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3. x86x87+gI[view] [source] 2023-11-19 03:10:14
>>sigmar+9z
nope. a coup implies something that is outside of normal operation. the board removing the CEO can and will happen.
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4. tsunam+vJ[view] [source] 2023-11-19 03:21:13
>>x86x87+gI
The fact that HN engineering grunts have no idea what table stakes are vs titles and authority shows how they aren’t cut out for executive brinksmanship.

Sam has superior table stakes.

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5. djur+yM[view] [source] 2023-11-19 03:42:37
>>tsunam+vJ
What does any of that have to do with whether it's a "coup" or not? "Coup" has an implication of illegitimacy, but by all accounts the board acted within its authority. It doesn't matter if it was an ill-advised action or if Altman has more leverage here.
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6. tsunam+nO[view] [source] 2023-11-19 03:53:37
>>djur+yM
Legitimacy is derived from power not from abstraction. Sorry that’s the reality. Rules are an abstraction. Power let’s you do whatever you want including making new rules.
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