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1. baidif+aq[view] [source] 2023-11-17 22:16:39
>>davidb+(OP)
- Cant be a personal scandal, press release would be worded much more differently

- Board is mostly independent and those independent dont have equity

- They talk about not being candid - this is legalese for “lying”

The only major thing that could warrant something like this is Sam going behind the boards back to make a decision (or make progress on a decision) that is misaligned with the Charter. Thats the only fireable offense that warrants this language.

My bet: Sam initiated some commercial agreement (like a sale) to an entity that would have violated the “open” nature of the company. Likely he pursued a sale to Microsoft without the board knowing.

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2. pbadam+vz[view] [source] 2023-11-17 22:58:46
>>baidif+aq
Altman has claimed before that he doesn't hold equity in OpenAI. He could have some kind of more opaque arrangement that gives him a material stake in the financial success of OpenAI, and downplayed it or didn't disclose it to the board.

Who knows, though -- I'm sure we'll find out more in the next few weeks, but it's fun to guess.

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3. Solven+kB[view] [source] 2023-11-17 23:08:42
>>pbadam+vz
What kind of opaque arrangement? What would be better than equity?
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4. batman+bH[view] [source] 2023-11-17 23:36:22
>>Solven+kB
I could easily see him, or any other insider, setting themselves up administrating a recipient entity for contributions out of those “capped profits” the parent non-profit is supposed to distribute. (If, of course, the company ever becomes profitable at the scale where the cap kicks in.)

Seems like it would be a great way to eventually maintain control over your own little empire while also obfuscating its structure and dodging some of the scrutiny that SV executives have attracted during the past decade. Originally meant as a magnanimous PR gesture, but will probably end up being taught as a particularly messy example of corporate governance in business schools.

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5. chatma+XI[view] [source] 2023-11-17 23:44:54
>>batman+bH
That would be a form of obfuscated profit-sharing, not equity ownership. Equity is something you can sell to someone else.
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6. edgyqu+5Z1[view] [source] 2023-11-18 09:10:51
>>chatma+XI
Regardless the lack of equity is often cited as some proof he has no incentive to enshittify and the point is that’s probably not true
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7. chatma+RW4[view] [source] 2023-11-19 03:49:14
>>edgyqu+5Z1
Yeah, I agree that the whole legal structure is basically duplicitous, and any attempt to cite it as some evidence of virtue is more emblematic of the opposite...
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