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1. skygaz+R1[view] [source] 2023-11-18 23:01:16
>>medler+(OP)
Man, the board already looked reckless and incompetent, but this solidifies the appearance. You can do crazy ill-advised things, but if you unwaveringly commit, we’ll always wonder if you’re secretly a genius. But when you immediately backtrack, we’ll know you were a fool all along.
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2. eigenv+Qa[view] [source] 2023-11-18 23:44:22
>>skygaz+R1
They are already the dumbest board in history (even dumber than Apple’s board firing Steve Jobs). So it’s not out of keeping with anything. Besides, those 2 independent board members (who couldn’t do fizz-buzz if their lives depended on it) won’t be staying long if Sam returns— nor are they likely to ever serve on any board ever again after their shenanigans.
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3. spacem+ke[view] [source] 2023-11-19 00:00:40
>>eigenv+Qa
Some of the board member choices are baffling. Like why is Joseph Gordon Levitt’s wife on the board? Her startup has under 10 employees and has a personal email address as the contact address on the homepage.
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4. branda+Xf[view] [source] 2023-11-19 00:08:29
>>spacem+ke
I hope there is an investigative report out there detailing why the 3 outsiders, 2 of them complete unknowns, are on the board, and how it truly benefits proper corporate governance.

That's way too much power for people who seemingly have no qualifications to make decisions about a company this impactful to society.

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5. sfink+fm[view] [source] 2023-11-19 00:47:26
>>branda+Xf
Unless "proper corporate governance" is exactly what makes the company dangerous to society, in which case you will need to have some external people in charge. You might want to set things up as a non-profit, though you'll need some structure where the non-profit wholly owns the for-profit wing given the amount of money flowing around...

Oh wait, that's what OpenAI is.

(To be clear, I don't know enough to have an opinion as to whether the board members are blindingly stupid, or principled geniuses. I just bristled at the phrase "proper corporate governance". Look around and see where all of this proper corporate governance is leading us.)

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6. branda+mq[view] [source] 2023-11-19 01:14:41
>>sfink+fm
Well with this extremely baffling level of incompetence, the suspect backgrounds of the outside members (EA, SingularityU/shell companies... Logan Roy would call them "not serious people", Quora - why, for data mining?!) fit the bill.

The time to do this was before ChatGPT was unleashed on the world, before the MS investment, before this odd governance structure was setup.

Yes, having outsiders on the board is essential. But come on, we need folks that have recognized industry experience in this field, leaders, people with deep backgrounds and recognized for their contributions. Hinton, Ng, Karpathy, etc.

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7. sfink+Nr[view] [source] 2023-11-19 01:26:51
>>branda+mq
Isn't that like saying that the Manhattan Project should have only been overseen by people with a solid physics background? Because they're the best judges of whether it's a good idea to build something that could wipe out all life on Earth? (And whether that's an exaggeration in hindsight is irrelevant; that was exactly the sort of question that the overseers needed to be considering at that time. Yes, physicists' advice would be necessary to judge those questions, but you couldn't do it with only physicists' perspectives.)
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