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1. gordon+LA1[view] [source] 2023-11-18 05:28:57
>>davidb+(OP)
From NYT article [1] and Greg's tweet [2]

"In a post to X Friday evening, Mr. Brockman said that he and Mr. Altman had no warning of the board’s decision. “Sam and I are shocked and saddened by what the board did today,” he wrote. “We too are still trying to figure out exactly what happened.”

Mr. Altman was asked to join a video meeting with the board at noon on Friday and was immediately fired, according to Mr. Brockman. Mr. Brockman said that even though he was the chairman of the board, he was not part of this board meeting.

He said that the board informed him of Mr. Altman’s ouster minutes later. Around the same time, the board published a blog post."

[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/17/technology/openai-sam-alt...

[2] https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1725736242137182594

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2. cedws+xC1[view] [source] 2023-11-18 05:44:26
>>gordon+LA1
So they didn't even give Altman a chance to defend himself for supposedly lying (inconsistent candour as they put it.) Wow.
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3. hef198+4s2[view] [source] 2023-11-18 13:00:23
>>cedws+xC1
Why would employees be consulted begore being fired?
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4. crazyg+KU2[view] [source] 2023-11-18 15:49:50
>>hef198+4s2
Because board members are not employees, or not just employees. They're part of the democratic governance of an organization.

The same way there's a big difference between firing a government employee and expulsion of a member of Congress.

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5. hef198+o83[view] [source] 2023-11-18 17:03:53
>>crazyg+KU2
Wow, that is actually the first time I hear someone use democracy and corporation unironically together...

In a semse board memebers have even less protection than rank and file. So no, nothing special happening at OpenAI other than a founder CEO being squezzed out, not the first nor the last one. And personal feeling never factored into that kind of decision.

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6. crazyg+Wd3[view] [source] 2023-11-18 17:31:12
>>hef198+o83
Ha, true. Well, I did say "democratic governance", not "democracy" itself.

Substitute "rules of order" or "parliamentary procedure" if you like. At the end of the day, it's majority vote by a tiny number of representatives. Whether political or corporate.

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