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>>davidb+(OP)
From NYT article [1] and Greg's tweet [2]

"In a post to X Friday evening, Mr. Brockman said that he and Mr. Altman had no warning of the board’s decision. “Sam and I are shocked and saddened by what the board did today,” he wrote. “We too are still trying to figure out exactly what happened.”

Mr. Altman was asked to join a video meeting with the board at noon on Friday and was immediately fired, according to Mr. Brockman. Mr. Brockman said that even though he was the chairman of the board, he was not part of this board meeting.

He said that the board informed him of Mr. Altman’s ouster minutes later. Around the same time, the board published a blog post."

[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/17/technology/openai-sam-alt...

[2] https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1725736242137182594

>>gordon+LA1
power hijack by the doomers. too bad the cat is out of the bag already

>>waihti+gM1
Quite possible actually, this seems to become a really hot political potato with at least 3 types of ambition running it 1. Business 2. Regulatory 3. ’Religious/Academic’. By latter I mean the divide between ai doomerists and others is caused by insubstantiable dogma (doom/nirvana).

>>fsloth+eO1
> insubstantiable dogma (doom/nirvana)

What do you mean by this? Looks like you're just throwing out a diss on the doomer position (most doomers don't think near future LLMs are concerning).

>>concor+142
Neither AI fears nor singularity is substantiated. Hence the discussion is a matter of taste and opinion, not of facts. They are sunstantiated once one or the other comes to fruition. The fact it's a matter of taste and opinion makes the discussion only so much heated.

>>fsloth+Bn2
Wouldn't this put AI doomerism in the same category as nuclear war doomerism? E.g. a thing that many experts think logically could happen and would be very bad but hasn't happened yet?

>>concor+sD2
I'm unaware of an empirical demonstration of the feasibility of the singularity hypothesis. Annihilation by nuclear or biological warfare on the other hand, we have ample empirical pretext for.

We have ample empirical pretext to worry about things like AI ethics, automated trading going off the rails and causing major market disruptions, transparency around use of algorithms in legal/medical/financial/etc. decision-making, oligopolies on AI resources, etc.... those are demonstrably real, but also obviously very different in kind from generalized AI doomsday.