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1. charle+Yl[view] [source] 2023-11-16 17:44:18
>>mikece+(OP)
You have to appreciate the complete transparency, gently nudging towards giving without ever begging for it.

Refreshing compared to the alternative that Wikipedia is showing, with the tantrum-like emails we receive from their CEO like "LAST REMINDER" or "We've had enough" ; which they ironically send to people who gave.

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2. GabeIs+nn[view] [source] 2023-11-16 17:50:33
>>charle+Yl
Those are just non-profit fundraiser consulting tactics. Don't take them personally, just ignore them. The reason they exist is that Wikipedia has too much money, so they spend some on consultants who say they can raise more. It's weird, but that's how the world works.

I would much prefer the Wikipedia endowment model of non-profit orgs. They have a standard operating procedure with a predictable budget, and endowment that let's them run indefinitely, and we just have to suffer through pledge drives. I just block them with ublock filters. I gave them 6 dollars back in 2012, and according to their marketing that is enough for life.

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3. wpietr+CL[view] [source] 2023-11-16 19:41:49
>>GabeIs+nn
> Don't take them personally

No. They are meant to manipulate me personally, as well as other persons I care about. I will take them personally.

More broadly, I don't have to excuse bad behavior just because somebody's making money off it or because it makes some too-narrow metric go up. Yes, it's a complex and imperfect world. But to me that's a reason to work harder to make things better, not a reason for people to say, "fuck it" and make the world worse.

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4. emmela+DM1[view] [source] 2023-11-17 01:54:45
>>wpietr+CL
With respect you are misinterpreting personally here.

They don't know you; they don't know me. I'm a nobody, just like you.

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5. Zandik+rf3[view] [source] 2023-11-17 14:19:20
>>emmela+DM1
I fail to see how being strangers excuses the behavior. You don't have to know each other to cause offense.
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6. emmela+WK4[view] [source] 2023-11-17 20:34:43
>>Zandik+rf3
I'm not excusing it. I'm saying "do not take it personally" is excellent advice.
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7. Zandik+Tp7[view] [source] 2023-11-18 14:24:49
>>emmela+WK4
Ah, misunderstood, my apologies and agreed.
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