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1. baidif+aq[view] [source] 2023-11-17 22:16:39
>>davidb+(OP)
- Cant be a personal scandal, press release would be worded much more differently

- Board is mostly independent and those independent dont have equity

- They talk about not being candid - this is legalese for “lying”

The only major thing that could warrant something like this is Sam going behind the boards back to make a decision (or make progress on a decision) that is misaligned with the Charter. Thats the only fireable offense that warrants this language.

My bet: Sam initiated some commercial agreement (like a sale) to an entity that would have violated the “open” nature of the company. Likely he pursued a sale to Microsoft without the board knowing.

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2. podnam+js[view] [source] 2023-11-17 22:27:17
>>baidif+aq
Doesn’t make any sense. He is ideologically driven - why would he risk a once in a lifetime opportunity for a mere sale?

Desperate times calls for desperate measures. This is a swift way for OpenAI to shield the business from something which is a PR disaster, probably something which would make Sam persona non grata in any business context.

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3. dogcom+ct[view] [source] 2023-11-17 22:30:59
>>podnam+js
He claims to be ideologically driven. OpenAI's actions as a company up til now point otherwise
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4. dmix+0v[view] [source] 2023-11-17 22:38:32
>>dogcom+ct
Sam didn't take equity in OpenAi so I don't see a personal ulterior profit motive as being a big likelihood. We could just wait to find out instead of speculating...
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5. marvin+cx[view] [source] 2023-11-17 22:48:01
>>dmix+0v
CEO of the first company to own the «machine that’s better than all humans at most economically valuable work» is far rarer than getting rich.
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6. jeffwa+BJ[view] [source] 2023-11-17 23:48:05
>>marvin+cx
He's already set for life rich
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7. ljm+0M[view] [source] 2023-11-18 00:01:15
>>jeffwa+BJ
Plus, he succeeded in making HN the most boring forum ever.

8 out of 10 posts are about LLMs.

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8. cpeth+121[view] [source] 2023-11-18 01:19:52
>>ljm+0M
In terms of impact, LLMs might be the biggest leap forward in computing history, surpassing the internet and mobile computing. And we are just at the dawn of it. Even if not full AGI, computers can now understand humans and reason. The excitement is justified.
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9. MrVand+781[view] [source] 2023-11-18 01:55:36
>>cpeth+121
Nah. LLM's are hype-machines capable of writing their own hype.

Q: What's the difference between a car salesman and an LLM?

A: The car salesman knows they're lying to you.

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10. SamPat+7h1[view] [source] 2023-11-18 03:08:15
>>MrVand+781
Nonsense. I was a semi-technical writer who went from only making static websites to building fully interactive Javascript apps in a few weeks when I first got ChatGPT. I enjoyed it so much I'm now switching careers into software development.

GPT-4 is the best tutor and troubleshooter I've ever had. If it's not useful to you then I'm guessing you're either using it wrong or you're never trying anything new / challenging.

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11. seabir+2F1[view] [source] 2023-11-18 06:02:49
>>SamPat+7h1
Smoothing over the first few hundred hours of the process but doing increasingly little over the next 20,000 is hardly revolutionary. LLMs are a useful documentation interface, but struggle to take even simple problems to the hole, let alone do something truly novel. There's no reason to believe they'll necessarily lead to AGI. This stuff may seem earth-shattering to the layman or paper pusher, but it doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of what even I (who I would consider to be of little talent or prowess) can do. It mostly just gums up the front page of HN.
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12. SamPat+5s2[view] [source] 2023-11-18 13:01:06
>>seabir+2F1
>Smoothing over the first few hundred hours of the process but doing increasingly little over the next 20,000 is hardly revolutionary.

I disagree with this characterization, but even if it were true I believe it's still revolutionary.

A mentor that can competently get anyone hundreds of hours of individualized instruction in any new field is nearly priceless.

Do you remember what it feels like to try something completely new and challenging? Many people never even try because it's so daunting. Now you've got a coach that can talk you through it every step of the way, and is incredible at troubleshooting.

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