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>>convex+(OP)
GPT5 pre-training just ended I believe. Brock, Pachocki, Szymon Sidor, would have likely all been involved.

These are huge losses. Pachocki led pre-training for GPT-4, and probably GPT-5. Brockman is the major engineer responsible for the efficiency improvements that enabled ChatGPT and GPT-4 to be even remotely cost-effective. That is a piece that is often overlooked, but OpenAI's advantage over the competition in compute efficiency is probably even larger than the model itself.

>>aidama+67
"Greg Brockman works 60 to 100 hours per week, and spends around 80% of the time coding. Former colleagues have described him as the hardest-working person at OpenAI."

https://time.com/collection/time100-ai/6309033/greg-brockman...

>>convex+l8
Seriously, do we honestly believe 80 hours a week coding is a good thing. What, is he this bad at coding.

What about he spends 4 hours a week coding cause he’s so good at coding.

Way more impressive.

>>romafi+Je
Might as well add LOC as a metric. Both can mean the person is extremely inefficient, over-engineering everything, and their eyes are begging for a break.

However! The best engineers I've been around do work a lot and they like it.

>>andirk+Lg
I’m not sure why it’s seen as ok to work 100 hours per week, or even glorified.

If instead of work it was something else it would be seen as a problem. 100 hours per week doesn’t leave room for anything else other than basic human needs.

“They like it”, well all addicts like what they’re addicted to, it doesn’t mean it’s healthy.

>>Xenoam+Dn
When you are a founder and working in a company doing bleeding edge it’s easy to work lots of hours. Maybe it’s not the kind of environment for you but others thrive in it. Lots of high demand type roles out unrelated to engineering that also have large hour workloads and compensate exceptionally well.

>>infect+sw
What do those people want the compensation for? To sleep on a mansion and back to work? Assuming they leave the office.

What I’m trying to say is that it is an addiction like any other and should be treated as such, not glorified.

>>Xenoam+Jw
Yes we understood your idea the first time around. And you still miss the point. It might not be for you but many individuals genuinely love their work. Either because they founded it, like the area of work, the people, or some combination.

It’s ok to not enjoy it yourself. Different strokes for different folks.

I don’t think it should be culturally championed but I don’t see it as an immediate red flag especially in the case of a bleeding edge company like OpenAI.