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1. mikhae+4K[view] [source] 2023-11-17 23:50:29
>>davidb+(OP)
It doesn't take a genius to figure out they are losing stupid amounts of money, with no major plan to recoup their investments.

Board probably took a look at updated burn-rate projections, saw that they have 6 months of runway, saw that they don't have enough GPUs, saw that Llama and Mistral and whatever other open-source models are awesome and run on personal computers, and thought to themselves - why the hell are we spending so much God damn money? For $20 a month memberships? For bots to be able to auto-signup for accounts, not prepay, burn compute, and skip the bill?

Then Grok gets released on Twitter, and they are left wondering - what exactly is it that we do, that is so much better, that we are spending 100x of what cheapo Musk is?

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2. abi+SL[view] [source] 2023-11-18 00:00:41
>>mikhae+4K
I mean GPT-4 is just so good. Have you compared GPT-4 vs. other models for coding? I'd pay more for GPT-4.
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3. kridsd+8P[view] [source] 2023-11-18 00:15:52
>>abi+SL
Concur. GPT4 is like having an infinite-energy L3 engineer reporting to me. That's worth $10,000 per month according to the labor market. Sam has been giving away the farm!
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4. nightf+6W[view] [source] 2023-11-18 00:47:23
>>kridsd+8P
People overestimating LLMs like this terrifies me so much
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5. bmitc+ic1[view] [source] 2023-11-18 02:25:10
>>nightf+6W
I had this disagreement with people on this site just the other day. People basically were like "you're asking it too complicated questions", but my response was then why does everyone make statements like the commenter you replied to?
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6. agentc+cf1[view] [source] 2023-11-18 02:53:42
>>bmitc+ic1
Because 99.9% of people who say things like this are just using ChatGPT itself and not any of the various awe-inspiring tools with full access to your codebase dynamically inserted into context via RAG. I have yet to talk to anyone who has actually worked for any amount of time against the GPT4 API or through Cursor, say, who underestimates their capabilities. Sincerely hoping this 'coup' doesn't mean the beginning of the end of that experience for most...
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7. janeta+to1[view] [source] 2023-11-18 04:01:38
>>agentc+cf1
Context is very important in these kinds of use cases. If you work with something niche, I think these tools are less valuable because the training data becomes sparse.

For example, GPT-4 produces Javascript code far better than it produces Clojure code. Often, when it comes to Clojure, GPT-4 produces broken examples, contradictory explanations, or even circular reasoning.

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8. agentc+zA1[view] [source] 2023-11-18 05:27:42
>>janeta+to1
Have you tried Cursor out of curiosity? No ties to the company and long-time dev (Scala mostly), just genuinely found it to be transformative to my development practice like no tool before.
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