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>>davidb+(OP)
Sam implied OpenAI had a major breakthrough a few weeks ago in a panel yesterday:

"Like 4 times now in the history of OpenAI, the most recent time was just in the last couple of weeks, I've gotten to be in the room when we sort of like, pushed the veil of ignorance back and the frontier of discovery forward. And getting to do that is like the professional honor of a lifetime".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFFvqRemDv8#t=13m22s

This is going to sound terrible, but I really hope this is a financial or ethical scandal about Sam Altman personally and he did something terribly wrong, because the alternative is that this is about how close we are to true AGI.

Superhuman intelligence could be a wonderful thing if done right, but the world is not ready for a fast take-off, and the governance structure of OpenAI certainly wouldn't be ready for it either it seems.

>>ademeu+wp
Why would they fire him because they are close to AGI? I get that they would go on full panic mode but firing the CEO wouldn't make sense since openai has AGI as an objective. The board wasn't exactly unaware of that.

>>mardif+uu
You're right, I was imagining that he decided to hide the (full extent of?) the breakthrough to the board and do things covertly for some reason which could warrant firing him, but that's a pretty unlikely prior: why would he hide it from the board in the first place, given AGI is literally the board's mission? One reason might be that he wants to slow down this AGI progress until they've made more progress on safety and decided to hide it for that reason, and the board disagrees, but that sounds too much like a movie script to be real and very unlikely!

As I said, while I do have a mostly positive opinion of Sam Altman (I disagree with him on certain things but I and trust him a lot more than the vast majority of tech CEOs and politicians and I'd rather he be in the room when true superhuman intelligence is created than them), I hope this has nothing to do with AGI and it's "just" a personal scandal.

>>ademeu+Vy
Altman told people on reddit OpenAI had achieved AGI and then when they reacted in surprise said he was "just meming".

https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/chatgpt-ai-agi-sam-altman...

I don't really get "meme" culture but is that really how someone who believed their company is going to create AGI soon would behave? Turning the possibility of the success of their mission into a punchline?