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1. Canada+kb[view] [source] 2023-11-16 17:05:48
>>mikece+(OP)
Seriously consider setting up a recurring donation if you prefer Signal. They have delivered consistently over the years. I set the $20/month back when they introduced the option.

I'm curious what the breakdown of donations is. I only have 1 contact with a $10/month and 1 with a $5/month badge. Of course there could be others not displaying the badge. Signal really needs 500,000 people giving $20/month and plus the rich guys giving some millions on top of that to be in a safe financial position.

Maybe something that could be done to encourage donations is have the client estimate how much raw infra costs your usage created and display in the donation screen.

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2. rglull+Vu[view] [source] 2023-11-16 18:22:18
>>Canada+kb
I fail to understand the point of supporting an organization that is completely against self-sovereignty like Signal is. Why would I want to pay someone to develop something that traps me into their platform and does not offer a way out?
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3. BlueTe+Ex[view] [source] 2023-11-16 18:34:31
>>rglull+Vu
Not completely ? Their server seems to be open source too now (with the exception of the spam filter) ?
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4. rglull+lA[view] [source] 2023-11-16 18:51:42
>>BlueTe+Ex
Can I operate my own Signal server and talk with people on the "main" one?
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5. Clamch+X01[view] [source] 2023-11-16 20:53:15
>>rglull+lA
Federation can only make security worse and I do not want it. You can have something else.
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6. rglull+nr2[view] [source] 2023-11-17 08:04:45
>>Clamch+X01
Security is extremely important, but it is not the only concern one should have when considering the design of a global communications infrastructure.

I worry a lot more about not having one single actor responsible in dealing for the communication of millions of people than about "quantum-resistant encryption".

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7. growse+zb5[view] [source] 2023-11-17 22:27:15
>>rglull+nr2
> I worry a lot more about not having one single actor responsible in dealing for the communication of millions of people than about "quantum-resistant encryption

I'm glad you worry about this. Me and other people have other priorities.

You're putting an awful lot of effort into projecting your values onto other people, which is a bit weird.

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8. rglull+Qo5[view] [source] 2023-11-17 23:28:51
>>growse+zb5
> Me and other people have other priorities.

Did you watch "The Big Short"? You are sounding like one of those jocks-turned-real-estate agents that are bragging about how easy it is to make money and thinking the analysts were idiots.

> You're putting an awful lot of effort into projecting your values onto other people.

We live in a world where people are bullied for not using iPhones and showing up with different bubble colors on the chat apps and family members will refuse to call you on the phone and only accept you if you use WhatsApp.

All I am saying is "please let's not collectively put ourselves in the hands of any single entity". Are you sure I'm the one projecting values, here?

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