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>>mikece+(OP)
> Storage: $1.3 million dollars per year.

> Servers: $2.9 million dollars per year.

> Registration Fees: $6 million dollars per year.

> Total Bandwidth: $2.8 million dollars per year.

> Additional Services: $700,000 dollars per year.

Signal pays more for delivering verification SMS during sign-up, than for all other infrastructure (except traffic) combined. Wow, that sounds excessive.

>>Duneda+Z
I really wonder why it’s so expensive to run. I always hear things about scaling but I used to run a top 500 alexia website and it was just a php app running on a mutualized offer for $5/month. Lots of manual caching though but still.

My wild guess is that either the stack is not really optimal (last I heard it was java) or they do other costly things at scale (sgx?)

>>baby+G5
Java is likely the most optimized part of the stack.

Many startups move up to the jam when there is little else that has optimized performance and efficiency like the jvm for 20-30 years.

Of courses this is a moot conversation if you’ve never used Java at scale. Apple and others are Java houses.

>>j45+ci
Java is entirely performant if you treat it right, and many of the problems with GC in J8 are fixed in later versions.

You can push Java very far.

Of course you can also write horribly ugly code in it.

>>bombca+Im
You can write horribly ugly code in most languages.

But the secret of JVM existing as an option is eventually learned by most who scale.