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>>mikece+(OP)
> Storage: $1.3 million dollars per year.

> Servers: $2.9 million dollars per year.

> Registration Fees: $6 million dollars per year.

> Total Bandwidth: $2.8 million dollars per year.

> Additional Services: $700,000 dollars per year.

Signal pays more for delivering verification SMS during sign-up, than for all other infrastructure (except traffic) combined. Wow, that sounds excessive.

>>Duneda+Z
Sounds like a great case to get the fuck away from SMS and phone numbers.

But hey, they still want your whole address book, and announce you're on signal to everyone else on signal.

The whole "secure" thing is a joke. Its all linked to your identity via your phone#.

>>pierat+Og
Signal actually jumps through quite a few hoops in order to let you and your contacts are on Signal without Signal actually having access to a copy of your whole address book. It's even mentioned in TFA.

I do agree about being linked to your phone number - doing it that way means not considering a lot of people's valid threat models. They are working on moving to usernames, though. It's in beta now.

>>NoGrav+8A
> Signal actually jumps through quite a few hoops in order to let you and your contacts are on Signal without Signal actually having access to a copy of your whole address book. It's even mentioned in TFA.

It doesn't say how it works. If Alice's phone can tell whether her contact Bob uses Signal without Alice and Bob doing any sort of a priori cryptographic exchange, why couldn't Signal itself do whatever Alice's phone is doing?