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[return to "Privacy is priceless, but Signal is expensive"]
1. V__+r8[view] [source] 2023-11-16 16:53:45
>>mikece+(OP)
Signal had 40 million active users in 2021 [1]. With 14 million in infra cost, that comes to .35 per user/year. Total expenses are about 33 million, so about .825 per user/year. All in all that seems very reasonable.

[1] https://www.businessofapps.com/data/signal-statistics/

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2. 2OEH8e+Jk[view] [source] 2023-11-16 17:39:42
>>V__+r8
Definitely reasonable but the ultra privacy-conscious/paranoid can't easily donate or pay privately.
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3. heavys+Cz[view] [source] 2023-11-16 18:48:31
>>2OEH8e+Jk
Signal requires a real phone number to open an account, you are not anonymous to Signal.
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4. sneak+9G[view] [source] 2023-11-16 19:19:08
>>heavys+Cz
Phone numbers can be obtained anonymously in many countries. I have several anonymous Signal accounts, each with their own anonymous phone number.
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5. caeril+LL[view] [source] 2023-11-16 19:42:15
>>sneak+9G
It's possible in the US, but it's getting very difficult. I don't know anywhere you can buy or or borrow a DID with Monero anymore. Looks like they got to Telnum recently.

You can still buy a SIM, a prepaid PIN, and a phone with cash, but you'd need to pay a non-correlated person to be seen on CCTV to do it, at a non-correlated time, and hope they don't just take your money and leave you nothing at the dead drop.

Then there's the hassle of setting up the account in a way that's not correlated with your location, normal waking hours, etc.

All of this could just be avoided if Signal did the right thing.

But they won't. Ask yourself why.

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6. pizzaf+w21[view] [source] 2023-11-16 20:59:26
>>caeril+LL
Why are you typing my comments?

Exactly. They won't because .... reasons.

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