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1. jph+e7[view] [source] 2023-11-16 16:48:30
>>mikece+(OP)
Signal can be better, IMHO, by separating from phone number requirements. In other words, let users have secure random ids, rather than forcing each user to hand over their phone number for phone company verification.

It turns out the budget shows the phone number registration problem: the costs to deal with phone number verification seem to be $6MM, which seems to be 10% of the entire budget.

If Signal staff are reading this, I'd gladly pay $100/year for a phone-free solution for all users.

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2. charci+Ea[view] [source] 2023-11-16 17:02:40
>>jph+e7
Phone verification does have value in adopting the network effects of phone numbers and integrity by making it harder to mass create accounts.
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3. yjftsj+Kb[view] [source] 2023-11-16 17:07:27
>>charci+Ea
It would have very particular ethical trade-offs, but they could just make signing up without a phone number a paid option. That has the advantage of actually turning a cost center into a profit center, at the distinct disadvantage of creating a moral hazard by the exact same virtue.
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