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1. bamazi+Ye[view] [source] 2023-11-08 18:41:40
>>kcorbi+(OP)
The major difference between the 2 is how they're being adopted by customers and the tangible value they return.

AI/ML barrier to entry is far simpler and vastly user friendly compared to crypto. Instant value return or gratification from ML products (GTPs and rest) is far more mainstream friendly.

Another view is the "loss" factor. Nobody, thus far, has has had their funds stolen or lost using ML products. I understand content creators and those who, unwillingly, contributed knowledge to learning systems did get circumvented but i'm talking about users/customers. Compare that to the negative stigma of crypto frauds and stereotypical association to illegal transactions.

Apples vs. rotten oranges in my opinion!

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2. 2OEH8e+Jf[view] [source] 2023-11-08 18:43:53
>>bamazi+Ye
Exactly. People, average everyday people, are using and getting value out of AI right now. Are we to ignore that?
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3. distor+Xg[view] [source] 2023-11-08 18:48:15
>>2OEH8e+Jf
Average every day people are using and getting value out of crypto right now too. Are we to ignore that?
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4. kwonki+Ui[view] [source] 2023-11-08 18:56:25
>>distor+Xg
I what way does an average consumer/user get value from crypto?
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5. jejeyy+Yp[view] [source] 2023-11-08 19:24:29
>>kwonki+Ui
send and receive money globally without any intermediary?
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6. pavlov+7u[view] [source] 2023-11-08 19:41:46
>>jejeyy+Yp
Let's say I want to send money from New York to Rome. How does crypto enable me sending USD and the receiver getting EUR without any intermediaries?

You need exchanges to do anything useful in crypto. And as we've seen most recently in the FTX case, all the exchanges are wretched hives of scum and villainy.

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7. damon_+Ey[view] [source] 2023-11-08 20:03:14
>>pavlov+7u
> all the exchanges

Not really. There are plenty of decentralized exchanges which are proven, reliable, auditable, generally used by many without issues.

see: https://uniswap.org https://curve.fi/ https://1inch.io

It's the centralized exchanges, which are more akin to traditional financial institutions whose records are not on a publicly visible blockchain but rather private databases or... apparently spreadsheets... which fall victim to the same issues we have seen in the past in the traditional financial world.

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8. zirgs+dM[view] [source] 2023-11-08 21:03:28
>>damon_+Ey
So you need at least 2 middlemen. One exchange where you buy crypto and another exchange where your friend sells that crypto.

Or you could simply use a traditional wire transfer and currency would be converted automatically. USA and Italy exchange millions of dollars every day - it's nothing special.

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9. jejeyy+NU[view] [source] 2023-11-08 21:41:03
>>zirgs+dM
To actually get the money to the other person via wire transfer is actually quite a process (having done many myself).

- You will need to get permission from your bank to send international wire transfers (sign forms/agreements). - takes a long time (in the order of days) - expensive (~$50-$75 for outgoing international wire, and $25-$50 to receive it).

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10. pavlov+O21[view] [source] 2023-11-08 22:22:01
>>jejeyy+NU
Where are you located? I send a fair amount of SWIFT wires, and they cost at most $25 and clear the next day.

Within the eurozone (the 20 countries using the euro), there’s SEPA instant credit which clears in less than ten seconds, is available 24/7, and costs practically nothing (a few cents). It’s a fine example of how thoughtful regulation can enable a system that is better than any crypto solution.

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