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1. redbel+mu1[view] [source] 2023-10-04 21:38:03
>>alphab+(OP)
7 years of support is probably the single, most noticeable improvement in the Android ecosystem in years now.

Also, the temperature sensor in the Pro, if it worked as expected, should be a cool addition.

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2. kkielh+zw1[view] [source] 2023-10-04 21:51:45
>>redbel+mu1
Finally.

The planned obsolescence conversation seems to revolve around Apple (the only self-interested greedy company on the planet according to the detractors) but they hold the record for software updates on smartphones - 10 years for the iPhone 5s. Here we are, in 2023, and Google is coming around to seven years of support. Apple has done at least seven since 2013.

In any case I applaud this move and at least five years should be mandated by law. I wonder how many "random manufacturer drops a cheap Android on the market and walks away on software and support" Android devices there are sitting in landfills across the globe. Of course there are plenty of Apple devices as well but it's not due to lack of support.

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3. amf12+kU1[view] [source] 2023-10-05 01:07:54
>>kkielh+zw1
There is a slight difference in how OS updates work in iOS and Android.

iOS system apps release with the OS on an annual cycle, but in Android system apps are upgraded independently. Meaning, even without Android OS upgrades the device would get new system apps.

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4. kramer+5z2[view] [source] 2023-10-05 08:51:45
>>amf12+kU1
I have to repeat this in every discussion about Android updates :(

It is almost as people in these Apple vs Android arguments have no idea how Android actually work...

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5. kkielh+uW2[view] [source] 2023-10-05 12:33:02
>>kramer+5z2
And in every discussion mentioning Android and Apple people see it as some kind of religious debate. I do not care what anyone does or doesn’t use. I have no stake in this and I don’t see it as some kind of argument.

That said, I do know this and your reply is based on either a misunderstanding of my point or optimism/enthusiasm for some kind of argument you seem to think we’re having.

I’m not talking about the built in calculator app, browser, etc.

I’m talking about the operating system version used and targeted for by applications.

Compare an Android fragmentation chart to an iPhone/iOS fragmentation chart.

It’s painfully obvious device support, updates, etc are still a mess in the Android ecosystem.

Talk to any team deploying Android applications and the first pain point you will hear is how ridiculous the fragmentation is compared to iOS.

It’s gotten better but it’s still a mess. Announcements like this are heading more in the right direction but I think it’s painfully clear that Apple got at least this one thing right from the start in their overall approach.

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6. kramer+DZ3[view] [source] 2023-10-05 17:59:06
>>kkielh+uW2
This is not a "religious debate".

You are making incorrect assumptions in a discussion and don't like to be corrected.

For the record, Android can also update system libraries via the store. The two platforms handle security updates very differently. If you want to get into a debate and criticise the one you are not using, at least try to learn how it works.

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