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1. andrew+n1[view] [source] 2023-10-04 15:25:28
>>alphab+(OP)
I'm really glad to see both the partnership with iFixit and the 7 years of support. Because everything else seems mostly meh to me, and while I'm upgrading this year from a Pixel 6 Pro, the continued diminished returns make it seem likely that 2-3 years from now I won't have as much reason to.
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2. Alacar+y8[view] [source] 2023-10-04 15:52:17
>>andrew+n1
My experience with my own pixel 7 pro and a pixel 5 has been that these devices are an order of magnitude lower in build quality than Samsung or iPhones. I really, really wanted to be happy with them but they've been a never ending source of frustration.

My pixel 5 just stopped turning on one day about 2 years in, and my pixel 7 pro had the volume and power buttons fall out about 3 weeks in (not due to a drop, after googling it's apparently a very widely seen issue).

The service with iFixit was unhelpful, they told me "We keep seeing this and Google says this is wear and tear. We can't submit it for a warranty repair, and if we try we end up eating the cost". After finally complaining on twitter I was contacted by some support person who said to give iFixit this email and they would fix it. They still refused, and after a few more rounds of interactions like that I eventually bought some replacement buttons on Amazon, popped them in, and put a case that covers them on it. I'm fully expecting this to randomly die some time before 2 years is up.

Combine that with Google's extremely strong tendency to abandon everything, promises like these seem well, worthless.

Meanwhile my daughter is using my wife's old iPhone from 8 years ago. My Samsung note 3 and my s8 still boot up and work just fine (though I cracked the screen on one about 5 years ago). It's just so obvious that these phones are very low priority to Google, while other companies base their business around their phones.

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3. matheu+Ke[view] [source] 2023-10-04 16:17:26
>>Alacar+y8
Yeah. I didn't want to buy a Google phone but they're the only ones supported by GrapheneOS. From what I've read they've got pretty good reasons for supporting them too. Why can't Samsung step up and offer the same security features and firmware update schedules? I'm using a Samsung Galaxy Note 9 and it's been excellent for many years but it doesn't matter if it doesn't run the software I want.
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4. shopva+vh[view] [source] 2023-10-04 16:26:50
>>matheu+Ke
With respect to grapheneOS on samsung, I don't think it's about security. It's about openness, there is already samsung knox (or whatever it is called, samsung dex?) so clearly they know how to make a secure enclave it's just that samsung wants to keep their stuff proprietary.

In general samsung and others (huawei, etc.) are trying to get a grip on android, and open-source seems to oppose that.

I don't know what motivates google to lean in so hard with open-source ( maybe trying to prevent fragmentation or avoid future antitrust or set a "clean" example standard for stock android with their pixel brand ), but we do currently enjoy its fruits.

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5. matheu+6v[view] [source] 2023-10-04 17:15:03
>>shopva+vh
You're right about that. Google seems to be a lot more open with its hardware compared to other manufacturers. This attitude apparently even extends towards their laptops. It's certainly something I've come to appreciate about Google.
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6. freedo+uj1[view] [source] 2023-10-04 20:46:00
>>matheu+6v
Same, in fact it's the reason I buy and continue to buy their products. I continually hope that doesn't change
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