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>>pictur+(OP)
> Javascript plus a "curl | sudo sh" attitude to life equals "yeah no, I am never touching this thing".

I get why there are people that don’t like how some installers do this, but this trope is really turning into the “but I don’t even own a TV” of OSS commentary.

Just use the Docker image if you don’t like it. Or get their appliance which actually supports ongoing development.

>>karlsh+h3
I wasn’t even aware this was a supported installation method anymore. If it is, it’s hidden on the site. When was the author’s last experience with homeassistant?

If the answer to cloud enshittification is “I know! I’ll use a different company’s solution instead of this open source project because I want to make an outdated stand against curl|bash” then I think the thought process is misguided.

>>chomp+ac
HomeAssistant has changed officially supported installation methods so much, I personally don't know what's supported. Docker, tarball, installer, their own OS Part 1, etc were all different ways you can run it.

Last I checked, the bare metal pip3 method was "always" going to be supported. So the "Just use Docker" comments ignore this.

The author complains about a lack of product leadership at Phillips, but HA has always been renown for ignoring their users.

>>snapet+1e
HAOS has been a pretty good experience when I set it up at my parents house though. I don't begrudge HA from trying to figure out the most reliable way to support installation methods - they're in a complicated space, and techies like us do tend to build unique-snowflake home setups.

I'm running the docker container (since I already had a home server running docker containers), but a NUC with HAOS for my folks has been working great.

>>XorNot+cg
I do begrudge them for putting in placeholders for features for years that weren't functional. Like a map that was blank and entire sections that weren't functional. I also begrudge them for doing things like removing Python 3.7 support 1.5 years before it was EOL. I begrudge them for re-architecting entire features like Open Z-Wave three times over the five years I used them. I begrudge them for asking their projects be removed from other open source projects.

HA is one guy's pet project to goof around with the latest and greatest technologies.