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1. p-e-w+g55[view] [source] 2023-09-27 04:05:27
>>rossan+(OP)
> It is the perfect combination of crap.

I think that's being way too charitable.

In a world where people are incarcerated on a scale unprecedented in all of human history, and where prosecutorial success is measured by number of scalps taken, the assumption that this is plain malice designed to let the state rob a few more individuals of their freedom makes much more sense than it all being just a big pile of incompetence and misunderstandings.

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2. WA+yf5[view] [source] 2023-09-27 05:32:09
>>p-e-w+g55
Source? Incarceration rate seems to be going down in western countries: https://news.un.org/en/story/2021/07/1096042
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3. p-e-w+Lh5[view] [source] 2023-09-27 05:57:22
>>WA+yf5
The scale of incarceration is still unprecedented. A reduction by 27 percent doesn't change that. Imprisonment was an extremely rare phenomenon for much of history (as was police, for that matter). Today's incarceration rates would have to be reduced by 99+% in order to reach pre-modern levels, where large cities often had only a handful of cells in total, and rural areas had none at all.
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4. lm2846+9i5[view] [source] 2023-09-27 06:00:48
>>p-e-w+Lh5
> Imprisonment was an extremely rare phenomenon for much of history (as was police, for that matter).

And crimes weren't solved, people not prosecuted, criminals not punished

For much of history life didn't even exist, that's not an argument for or against anything

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5. watwut+Aj5[view] [source] 2023-09-27 06:15:07
>>lm2846+9i5
Murder clearance rates went DOWN last decades in USA. Less of major crime is solved.

Plus majority of it never went through tria, because trial is just too much risk. So, there are not all that many actual checks and balances

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6. lm2846+DD5[view] [source] 2023-09-27 09:08:05
>>watwut+Aj5
That's a multi faceted problem. Murder rates also were halves since the 80s in the US, it's not necessarily the same type of criminality

In other countries the clearance rates are as high as ever. The US is an exception in many aspects in the West, closer to third world countries depending on what metric you look at

> overall, findings showed that the clearance rate in Finland and Switzerland in the years of analysis was very high, in some years of the analysis even reaching 100 percent. Internationally, these rates are extraordinary high, even in comparison with other European countries such as Italy (67 percent and, later, 78 percent) , Estonia (80 percent), England & Wales (85 percent) and France (80 percent)

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/14773708187648...

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