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>>rossan+(OP)
> It is the perfect combination of crap.

I think that's being way too charitable.

In a world where people are incarcerated on a scale unprecedented in all of human history, and where prosecutorial success is measured by number of scalps taken, the assumption that this is plain malice designed to let the state rob a few more individuals of their freedom makes much more sense than it all being just a big pile of incompetence and misunderstandings.

>>p-e-w+g55
Source? Incarceration rate seems to be going down in western countries: https://news.un.org/en/story/2021/07/1096042

>>WA+yf5
The scale of incarceration is still unprecedented. A reduction by 27 percent doesn't change that. Imprisonment was an extremely rare phenomenon for much of history (as was police, for that matter). Today's incarceration rates would have to be reduced by 99+% in order to reach pre-modern levels, where large cities often had only a handful of cells in total, and rural areas had none at all.

>>p-e-w+Lh5
> Imprisonment was an extremely rare phenomenon for much of history (as was police, for that matter).

And crimes weren't solved, people not prosecuted, criminals not punished

For much of history life didn't even exist, that's not an argument for or against anything

>>lm2846+9i5
Mob justice existed too. And execution for minor crime, with king's justice.

Modern western police forces, with all their foibles, are far, far, far better than mob justice.

Are people even aware of history, and how absolutely bloody it was, with an immense lack of personal rights?

Fixing what's broken now is good. Trying to pretend it is worse than what was before, is absolutely absurd and laughable.