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1. sneak+KD4[view] [source] 2023-09-27 00:56:34
>>rossan+(OP)
> I couldn’t live with this uncertainty any longer. But first, I had to get my son back. As a precautionary measure, the hospital followed mandatory reporting statutes and my wife and I temporarily lost custody of David. Thanks to our incredibly effective defense lawyer, we were cleared of all charges within two months, during which we stayed at the hospital 24/7 with David until we sorted out the legal procedures. I would discover much later that we actually had been lucky to be allowed to do this, as most parents are abruptly separated from their babies for months after reporting takes place.

This sounds very much like presumed guilt rather than presumed innocence.

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2. Seattl+s55[view] [source] 2023-09-27 04:06:56
>>sneak+KD4
Is the criminal justice system in France based on a presumption of innonce?
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3. armada+Aa5[view] [source] 2023-09-27 04:46:53
>>Seattl+s55
Is that a serious question? Yes, the French justice system is based on a presumption of innocence, just like any other functioning democratic nation. It is a basic human right under the UN charter after all.
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4. mlindn+Ef5[view] [source] 2023-09-27 05:32:50
>>armada+Aa5
You say that, but this doesn't seem like presumption of innocence. A country with a presumption of innocence doesn't take your child away from you without trial.
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5. Murome+Cn5[view] [source] 2023-09-27 06:55:03
>>mlindn+Ef5
Pre-trial detention is a thing pretty much everywhere despite literally locking innocent people up before a trial.
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6. robbie+sA5[view] [source] 2023-09-27 08:44:00
>>Murome+Cn5
Tough to see how else you would do it - a hypothetical murderer in broad daylight with a ton of reliable witnesses and video evidence would still have to wait for a trial, I don't think anyone would seriously say that this hypothetical person should be free until the trial happens.
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