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1. ameliu+Fb[view] [source] 2023-09-21 09:09:21
>>linker+(OP)
We need a no-tether law.

If you buy a product you should be able to use it even if you completely break all ties with the original vendor. Otherwise it's a service and not a product.

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2. vidarh+661[view] [source] 2023-09-21 14:57:28
>>ameliu+Fb
Pretty much any home automation that supports zigbee or z-wave already provides this for everything except their bridges, though. And that includes Hue.

While I'd happily support regulating tethering as well, because it'd certainly make some things easier, with a little bit of thought you can build out home automation where it's all under your control. E.g. stick to zigbee and z-wave devices as the default, and get dumb zigbee and z-wave USB dongles, and connect them to an open source bridge, like Home Assistant, and you've got a good start.

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3. yjftsj+xk2[view] [source] 2023-09-21 19:56:49
>>vidarh+661
Sure, but the bridge is an important part of the system.
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4. vidarh+EA2[view] [source] 2023-09-21 21:06:05
>>yjftsj+xk2
It is, but it's a small one, typically both in cost and number. E.g. I have 5 led strips, half a dozen smart plugs, about 40 bulbs, and a dozen smart switches, and 5 smart radiator valves/thermostats. Replacing a bridge with Home Assistant and a 10 pound USB dongle isn't the problem if everything else speaks open protocols. As I said, I wouldn't object to requiring untethering ability even for those, but requiring open protocols for the other devices is more important.

Most of the above is Zigbee, which is open, but some is Tado and Lightwave, and if they go rogue it'd suck to replace the devices rather than just the hubs.

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