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1. neilv+RQ1[view] [source] 2023-09-21 18:04:08
>>linker+(OP)
"What's the worst that could happen, if we let MBA-types take over engineering?"

"Even your home's light bulbs will require an Internet-connected computer account that spies on you."

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2. rchaud+912[view] [source] 2023-09-21 18:45:32
>>neilv+RQ1
Nice try, but this is the IoT wet dream pioneered by Nest Labs and a ton of other grizzled ex-SV hardware engineers.
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3. coldte+232[view] [source] 2023-09-21 18:53:35
>>rchaud+912
Those engineers have been MBA-types in developer clothing for over 2 decades now.

The engineer as hacker hasn't been anywhere close to leadership roles for quite a while. Perhaps ever since the 90s. I don't see a passion for computing and hacking with such people, just for making money and VCs. That's why the end product doesn't even matter to them.

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4. hef198+S32[view] [source] 2023-09-21 18:56:46
>>coldte+232
Yeah, no true scotsman, I mean no true software developer, would ever do anything like that.

Except Google, Meta and the like do exist.

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5. coldte+Z42[view] [source] 2023-09-21 19:00:33
>>hef198+S32
That's neither here, nor there.

I didn't say they're not engineers or developers. I said they're not engineers/developers in the old hacker sense. They don't have a passion for computing and for making something, but for the money and VC schemes.

If you think Google and Meta is run with a passion for computing and hacking in mind, and that their products and actions reflect that, then I have a bridge to sell you.

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