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>>linker+(OP)
Time and time again It takes just one MBA trying to boost numbers to turn a good product into a data collection nightmare.

Honestly is there any IoT brand that we can trust long-term? Maybe IKEA stuff?

>>zeisch+U8
There is a somewhat strangely named German brand that sells private IoT door / security cams. Forgot the name, sadly. They’re quite expensive though. My guess is they might sell private lightbulbs.

For home audio, Sonos is great. Their voice assistant is completely locally processed.

>>jorvi+na
Are you joking about Sonos? They force you to have account with them to use speakers and you have to enable location sharing on your app to connect (!!). They know more about people than their parents do.

>>mirekr+mc
> Are you joking about Sonos? They force you to have account with them to use speakers and you have to enable location sharing on your app to connect

Tangential PSA: Red Sea (aquatics) does/did this too. I can't control the lights on my fucking aquarium without all four of them being connected to the internet over wifi and managed through an account registered with an app with location sharing enabled. Only the iOS app worked; the Android version was completely broken.

The app lets you group lights and model the lighting curves however you want but there's no reason this couldn't have been done over Zigbee. I assume my LAN is now part of some Mossad botnet.