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>>linker+(OP)
Time and time again It takes just one MBA trying to boost numbers to turn a good product into a data collection nightmare.

Honestly is there any IoT brand that we can trust long-term? Maybe IKEA stuff?

>>zeisch+U8
I'm sure the right answer is open source stuff, self-hosted. But as an alternative, the Apple Homekit architecture does seem serious about keepig as much info as possible on the devices themselves and not throwing stuff into the cloud.