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1. gumbal+qW[view] [source] 2023-09-01 19:38:00
>>whoish+(OP)
Can't help but notice the gap between UK and US companies. While most US jobs are remote, those in the UK are not. Pretty backwards.
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2. dom96+581[view] [source] 2023-09-01 20:46:54
>>gumbal+qW
Interesting observation. Perhaps it is just a result of how London-centric the UK is.
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3. gumbal+6a1[view] [source] 2023-09-01 21:02:06
>>dom96+581
That and a rather declining tech scene. Most places are agile shops cargo culting supposedly good practice, yet somehow software systems fail spectacularily (banks, airports, government sites, ecommerce, etc). Probably because talent is diverted to higher paying, modern, locations.
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4. crumpl+Dr1[view] [source] 2023-09-01 23:25:44
>>gumbal+6a1
Brexit had the desired effect of making the UK a less desirable place for foreigners to settle.
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5. gumbal+8t1[view] [source] 2023-09-01 23:44:21
>>crumpl+Dr1
It would appear that it's making it less desireable even for natives to continue being settled.
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6. quickt+oA1[view] [source] 2023-09-02 01:07:17
>>gumbal+8t1
Where are they going? The US is famously hard to get into for foreigners wanting to work, as is Australia really. Are they working in the EU, or nomading?
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7. shubb+sN2[view] [source] 2023-09-02 15:33:51
>>quickt+oA1
It's easy to talk in generalities without data. The data is - immigration to the UK is up by a lot, including tech workers.

However, those people are mostly going to work outside the startup bubble. The startup scene that a lot of us work in here is not doing so great. Funding is much harder to find, pickier, and more interested in revenue now than a story about the future. Frothy startups are imploding.

The result of this is that, if you look at the indeed jobs data, while the overall jobs market is pretty good, the tech jobs market is about 60% of what it was in 2019.

I imagine a lot of people who got into tech during the pandemic hiring bubble (go on furlough, do an online javascript bootcamp, get a 70K salary) are going back to what ever they got furloughed from.

So it is harder to get a job for everyone, but the relatively easy visas for tech workers and english working language mean that the flow of labour into the market continues to increase.

We can expect this to result in continued divergence between UK and US salaries. UK tech salaries remain about 2-4x Indian tech salaries for equivalent workers for instance, so the UK remains an attractive destination for earning money and building a nest egg back home.

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8. tngl+s4E[view] [source] 2023-09-14 06:36:39
>>shubb+sN2
Where are the relatively easy visas for tech workers? In my experience it’s still very difficult to find an employer that will sponsor you.
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