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>>c420+(OP)
Yet another disturbing revelation about the NYPD brought to light by the STOP project. They're doing great work fighting an uphill battle -- they also tried (unsuccessfully, unfortunately) to keep Mayor Adams's NYPD from flying surveillance drones among the crowds, and even into private backyards, at J'Ouvert this weekend. (He got the idea from his recent trip to visit Netanyahu, who does all sorts of crazy stuff like that regularly.

>>coucha+06
This type of stuff is the predicted consequence of the increase in surveillance and intelligence functions with state and local police that escalated after 9/11.

You can’t give military style tools to poorly disciplined police forces without consequences. With the NSA or the Army, the problems are policy. With an org like NYPD, they don’t really have control of “the troops”, so who knows what’s happening.

>>Spooky+db
In America we have a "policy" against search without probable cause that the NSA consistently violates. Policy doesn't keep them in line.

>>willci+Rm
> Policy doesn't keep them in line.

This is correct. It's also the argument for ending qualified immunity and defunding the police.

>>hypeit+Uo
Does defunding the police mean stop having a police force in the country?

>>trinsi+CG
No. Further, the only people (with any serious power) really bringing up this idea are opponents of police reform trying to poison the well on the idea that police reform is needed.

These people may even benefit from over policing wrt kickbacks from private prisons. For example, Marco Rubio [0] is a top recipient of money from the private prison lobby, and he's run attack ads wrongfully saying that his political opponents want to abolish police, and he himself ran on a platform pushing for larger police budgets.

0 - https://www.opensecrets.org/industries./indus.php?ind=G7000