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>>tortil+(OP)
Rotten tomatoes is actually very useful if you know the magic formula:

* If tomatometer & audience score are within 5% of each other, you can trust the ratings to give you a decent indiciation of movie quality.

* If tomatometer is more than 15%+ higher than audience score, it means it's an artsy fartsy movie that critics like and movies don't.

* If audience score is 15%+ higher than tomatometer, it's a fun movie even if it's not oscar worthy. (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/old_school is a perfect example)

>>ernest+d93
Okay, let's give that a whirl

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The Last Jedi

Tomatometer 91% Audience 41%: Artsy Fartsy

[Really?]

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The Greatest Showman

Tomatometer 56% Audience 86%: Fun, not oscar worthy

[Won Oscar for Best Original Song]

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EDIT: Truthfully, it was the release of these two films (both Dec 2017) that caused the Tomatormeter and I to part ways. Simply indefensible, IMO.

>>pauldd+8d3
I don't think "Best Original Song" negates the heuristic. Generally when someone talks about "Oscar Worthy" they are generally considering the original categories or even just best picture, director, actress, actor, etc. Maybe best original screen play added in 1940. Not to diminish the performers or writers of the Best Original Song, it's still an awesome achievement. Just more personal than something like Best Picture.

>>davegu+sn3
Yes, I agree. Put another way: It's hard for a movie with the best director or best screenplay to be a bad movie, but it's very easy for a movie with a great original song to otherwise be terrible.

>>jdminh+TA3
Much better said. Thank you.