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1. smiley+hX2[view] [source] 2023-09-07 19:00:16
>>tortil+(OP)
To me, RT turning to shit is just Goodhart's Law in action - "when a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure"

Originally, RT was more or less a 'good faith' measurement of the general sentiment\quality of a film, but it is so easily manipulated it was inevitable that it would become meaningless.

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2. deaddo+263[view] [source] 2023-09-07 19:38:08
>>smiley+hX2
Which became more and more obvious with the plethora of examples today of disconnected Audience and Critic scores.

While they definitely measure on different metrics, the goal of a critic is supposed to be to measure films worth watching (even if only for a subset of the total audience). When 95% of critics tell you to see a movie that only 10% of people enjoy, something's broken.

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3. taberi+0b3[view] [source] 2023-09-07 20:00:44
>>deaddo+263
On the other hand, children generally love ice cream and hate broccoli. They'll eat so much ice-cream that it makes them sick.

It depends on what you mean by "worth watching".

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4. deaddo+Cj3[view] [source] 2023-09-07 20:44:52
>>taberi+0b3
Adults love ice cream and "hate"* broccoli too, in general. They simply choose to eat one over the other based on external input.

You can't apply necessity to art. I don't have to eat some shitty art-film to survive.

* - Hate is probably an overloaded word anyways. I don't know many kids who genuinely "hate" broccoli, they just think eating broccoli means they won't get ice cream because they don't have rational thought processes and can't think/imagine beyond the next fifteen minutes. Adults can, and so the distaste is less extreme, because they can have ice cream on their cheat day. But obesity rates would show that nothing really changes, in how much they "like" things.

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5. JadeNB+DU3[view] [source] 2023-09-08 00:22:25
>>deaddo+Cj3
> Adults love ice cream and "hate"* broccoli too, in general. They simply choose to eat one over the other based on external input.

Of course it's impossible for one person's evidence to refute what happens "in general", but either this isn't true for me, or I don't understand what you mean. I love broccoli. I don't hate ice cream, but I certainly wouldn't eat it every day, which I'd be happy to do for broccoli. I don't think I'm responding in any significant way to external factors, only to eating one regularly making me feel better than eating the other regularly. I don't imagine my experience to be universal, but nor do I imagine it to be very rare.

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6. deaddo+9Y3[view] [source] 2023-09-08 00:48:44
>>JadeNB+DU3
The point you're refuting is a sidenote, at best. Thus, the asterisk and footnote aspect of it.

However, I addressed your point:

> obesity rates would show that nothing really changes, in how much they "like" things.

If everyone loved healthy food and hated treats, obesity rates wouldn't be so high, and Frito-Lay wouldn't be one of the most profitable food companies in the world. Obviously, no general claim is universal.

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