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1. ernest+d93[view] [source] 2023-09-07 19:52:08
>>tortil+(OP)
Rotten tomatoes is actually very useful if you know the magic formula:

* If tomatometer & audience score are within 5% of each other, you can trust the ratings to give you a decent indiciation of movie quality.

* If tomatometer is more than 15%+ higher than audience score, it means it's an artsy fartsy movie that critics like and movies don't.

* If audience score is 15%+ higher than tomatometer, it's a fun movie even if it's not oscar worthy. (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/old_school is a perfect example)

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2. pauldd+8d3[view] [source] 2023-09-07 20:10:44
>>ernest+d93
Okay, let's give that a whirl

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The Last Jedi

Tomatometer 91% Audience 41%: Artsy Fartsy

[Really?]

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The Greatest Showman

Tomatometer 56% Audience 86%: Fun, not oscar worthy

[Won Oscar for Best Original Song]

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EDIT: Truthfully, it was the release of these two films (both Dec 2017) that caused the Tomatormeter and I to part ways. Simply indefensible, IMO.

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3. notJim+rg3[view] [source] 2023-09-07 20:29:32
>>pauldd+8d3
Ehh, I feel like if you broaden the system slightly, it still works.

TLJ: cultural elites liked the whole burning the sacred texts thing, normies hated it. (NB: I only vaguely remember this movie and don't have strong opinions about it, don't crucify me.)

The Greatest Showman: I assume "not oscar worthy" meant specifically not "Best Picture" worthy. It's a specific type of movie that wins that award.

In any case, just like you append " reddit" to most searches, I recommend appending " letterboxd" to any movie searches. You do kind of have to read the reviews instead of just going by the rating though.

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4. krapp+Zh3[view] [source] 2023-09-07 20:36:26
>>notJim+rg3
>TLJ: cultural elites liked the whole burning the sacred texts thing, normies hated it.

Wouldn't the "cultural elites" in this context be the hardcore Star Wars fans who hated everything about the new trilogy, and Luke's disillusionment arc in particular, and the "normies" be the mainstream fans who really didn't care?

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5. notJim+zw3[view] [source] 2023-09-07 21:52:36
>>krapp+Zh3
I think the interesting thing about this comment and the other reply to it is that there are actually several different subgroups of people who all will have different takes on this. I meant cultural elites the way bluefirebrand described it (I'd put it a little differently, but still), but as you say, there is another group that you could call cultural elites as well (though this isn't usually how the term is used)

The nice thing about letterboxd is that many different subgroups are represented, so you can find the reviews you vibe with and get a better idea of whether the movie will appeal to subgroup you're a part of.

There's probably a pretty decent youtube essay on like the balkanization of culture and also the construction of identity through consumption, and how social media has turbo-charged all this here.

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