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1. genera+Ag2[view] [source] 2023-09-07 16:17:36
>>tortil+(OP)
Not really surprising, this is just confirmation of what's been apparent for a while - Audience score is an accurate estimate of the movie, and the tomatometer (the critic score) basically just reflects the political correctness / marketing budget of the movie.
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2. munk-a+jq2[view] [source] 2023-09-07 16:53:32
>>genera+Ag2
I think your statement is quite a bit more correct if you just remove the "political correctness" option. Critic scores are based on marketing budgets - award shows in particular are funded by immense amounts of prestige lobbying.
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3. baryph+qu2[view] [source] 2023-09-07 17:09:31
>>munk-a+jq2
I'm not sure I agree, but it would be worth studying empirically. The film Strange World, for instance, bombed, but has a 72% on RT and is certainly politically correct. It was quite poorly marketed.[0] While studios aren't in the habit of sharing marketing budgets, we can safely say the marketing expenditure was low.

This is a single datapoint, but my hypothesis is that political correctness does indeed account for a measurable (beyond noise) portion of a RT score. Marketing spend probably matters more, and genuinely excellent non-PC films (say, Oppenheimer) can succeed without PC, but PC does contribute.

[0]https://fandomwire.com/theyve-been-barely-advertising-it-unt...

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4. ryandr+BC2[view] [source] 2023-09-07 17:39:35
>>baryph+qu2
What even makes one movie politically correct and another one not? The phrase has been watered down to the point where I think it now just means "vaguely liked by one political team and disliked by the other." So instead of using a meaningless euphemism, OP should articulate what exact themes, stories, or characters they think lead to a good critic score?
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5. phpist+cL2[view] [source] 2023-09-07 18:11:27
>>ryandr+BC2
Simple "politically correct" films put the political narrative ahead of all things including historical accuracy, established canon, accuracy to other media (books, games, etc), scientific accuracy, or even good story telling.

They focus first on their political objectives, their political views, and what political issues they wish to advocate for above all else

This has been an increasing trope in modern film and shows.

"The narrative" is now even a meme... The other coded phrase for a "politically correct" film is "re-imagined for a modern audience"

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6. ryandr+RQ2[view] [source] 2023-09-07 18:34:08
>>phpist+cL2
Political narrative? Can we get even more vague? That's what I was getting at: People complain about movies and their "political narratives" and "political objectives" but nobody wants to mention specific narratives or objectives, and why they object to them. I don't recall anything overtly political in most modern movies. There was no campaign speech to elect Biden in the latest Captain America. So what exact "narratives" is everyone complaining about? Be specific.

EDIT: Ugh, looks like replier reached for personal attacks, so this thread has sadly derailed into flamewar :( Hitting the eject button.

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7. phpist+NS2[view] [source] 2023-09-07 18:43:28
>>ryandr+RQ2
Either you are living under a rock, are being purposely obtuse, or support the politics being pushed so you either do not see it or just willfully ignore it.

>There was no campaign speech to elect Biden in the latest Captain America

This is just a stupid statement

>I don't recall anything overtly political in most modern movies.

Snow White, Indian Jones 5, Just about Every Marvel Movie Past infinity War, 2 of the 3 Star Wars Films in the new Trilogy, The Little Mermaid... Shall I go on?

It is more pronounced in TV Shows however, She Hulk, Season 2 and 3 of Witcher, Rings of Power, etc etc etc

>So what exact "narratives" is everyone complaining about?

For starters [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPE7-PRL0M8

This that just just the tip of the ice berg...

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8. dragon+gT2[view] [source] 2023-09-07 18:45:08
>>phpist+NS2
> Snow White, Indian Jones 5, Just about Every Marvel Movie Past infinity War, 2 of the 3 Star Wars Films in the new Trilogy, The Little Mermaid... Shall I go on?

That's a list of movies, not an identification of political content in movies.

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