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>>emilsj+(OP)
Broadly this is great to see and I’m sure the team has worked hard on this.

But can’t help but feel like this is a bit of knee jerk reaction to the growth of the much smaller open source product Penpot, that’s received increasing interest and even some funding since the Figma sale was announced.

Penpot has bet on making all the controls match the html/css spec as well as save everything as svg, in short having a big focus on making devs first class stakeholders.

This feels like a late response following Penpot Fest that ran recently and announced many cool dev features.

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgcCPfOv5v56-fghJo2dHNB...

>>evolve+T8
That's not been my impression as a designer. Outside of HN, I've not seen anybody talk about switching to Penpot. My team even looked at it and concluded it was several evolutionary steps from being an option. It's not a viable replacement for Figma yet. To be clear, I'd love it if it were, because I want competition in a space Adobe is trying to monopolize, I just don't feel like Penpot is providing that pressure at this point.

>>karate+Eq
I see Penpot primarily taking Figma's market share around the edges. For established design teams with robust workflow needs, there's no competition right now despite some of Penpot's novel design features like grid layout. For independents, enthusiasts, and teams running on a shoestring, however (read: Figma's free-tier customers), it becomes considerably more compelling as a potential alternative.

To paraphrase Reed Hastings' classic line: Penpot needs to become Figma before Figma can become Penpot.