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1. mutant+l1[view] [source] 2023-08-15 04:21:56
>>xslowz+(OP)
I think that HN itself also shadow flags submissions from a list of domains it doesn't like.

Try submitting a URL from the following domains, and it will be automatically flagged (but you can't see it's flagged unless you log out):

  - archive.is
  - watcher.guru
  - stacker.news
  - zerohedge.com
  - freebeacon.com
  - thefederalist.com
  - breitbart.com
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2. chasin+m1[view] [source] 2023-08-15 04:22:06
>>mutant+l1
Good.

Hacker News isn't an open-ended political site for people to post weird propaganda.

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3. mutant+z1[view] [source] 2023-08-15 04:23:56
>>chasin+m1
How's archive.is "weird propaganda"?
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4. dang+T1[view] [source] 2023-08-15 04:25:51
>>mutant+z1
It isn't banned in comments - https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que..., https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que..., etc.

We probably banned it for submissions because we want original sources at the top level.

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5. mutant+U5[view] [source] 2023-08-15 05:10:09
>>dang+T1
> We probably banned it for submissions because we want original sources at the top level.

Then why web.archive.org isn't also banned? [1] And what about things which aren't available from the original source anymore?

[1]: >>37130420

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6. dang+p92[view] [source] 2023-08-15 19:37:50
>>mutant+U5
That's a good question. See https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... and dredmorbius's comment at >>37138346 re archive.org.

As for "why archive.org and not archive.is" - that's a bit of a borderline call, but gouggoug pointed out some of it at >>37130890 . The set of articles which (a) are no longer on the web, (b) are not on archive.org, but (c) are on archive.is, isn't that big. Paywall workarounds are a different thing, because the original URLs are still on the web (albeit paywalled). For those, we want the original URL at the top level, because it's important for the domain to appear beside the title.

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